[FlyHiJets]

you PULL the Franchise QB from the game until he's prepared to lead the franchise.

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That's exactly why you blame Herm & Co.....not Chad. Herm has to remember that it's he who had to make that call. He's the coach, not the other way around. Brooks should've been in that game. No question.

Herm & co are completely responsible for it. As for Chad's fault. I say that it's not his fault because he didn't reinjure the same tear. It's a new tear. He wanted to try to help the team. If the damn O line would've actually blocked for him, he wouldn't have gotten hurt again.

[penningtonpays]

sorry to say but herms day in NY could be numbered imo

[Amen]

yeah, but even prior to the new tear, Chad - a man who's played football all his life, should've understood his responsibility to be honest with himself about his condition. I don't want to see any excuses like "I'm fine, just need my timing/footwork/etc".. you're either prepared to play on the NFL level or not.

[Mr_Jet]

It completely slipped my mind that you know me personally. Find anywhere in the post where I conveyed my offline toughness in words. I outwitted you, not threatened you. Pull your skirt up, kid.

I pick the Jets to do well every season, because I'm a fan. Before every season, I say they can go 16-0. At this point, I'll still say 13-3.

The difference between you and I is that you're a Chad Pennington fan, and not a Jets fan. Not to turn this into a political discussion... but I'm still an American even if I disagree with some of the President's decisions (just to place things in perspective for you).

If I could strap up the pads again and try out for a team, I would. But my college football hopes were shot with high school football injuries I returned too soon from. Try being 15 - 16 with 2 herniated discs and losing feeling on the left side of your body... to ignore doctors, forge medical papers to play again senior year, and never play again. Trust me when I say how important it is to make sure you're fully rehabbed. And that's at a high school level, where I wasn't paid $64m to be THE MAN for the team.

Common sense tells me what'd be best for the team. My football career has been done since 12th grade.

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Your reading comprehension skills are poor. Rather than verbally massaging Chad's testicles

Did you not say that???? Yeah that was very "witty." You're a regular ol' Johnny Carson there. I forgot you personally knew ME.

You don't know anything about me, KID. Like I said on this very message board before I've been a Jets fan long before I even knew who Chad Pennington was. You don't know what you're even talking about. You're the one acting as if it was Chad's fault that he got injured. I'm sure the Jets offensive line and London Fletcher had nothing to do with Chad's injury. I'm sure if London Fletcher hadn't hit Chad in that Bills game last season Chad still would have found a way to get injured so he could just collect his money and stay on the sidelines.

You didn't out wit anybody. You still have not provided anybody here with any facts that prove your argument to be true. Do you even remember what your own argument was about? I doubt it. I'm not a Chad lover, your just a Chad hater. That's what it all comes down to. Their are still Jets fans that "verbally massage" (your words not mine) Vinny's testicles just for what he did in 1998. Their are still Jets fans who don't like Chad because he took over the starting Q.B. job from Vinny in 2002 when the Jets struggled at the start on that season. Last week this time their wildest dream finally came true. Chad's off the field for the rest of the season and Vinny is back and suited up ready to go. Their was even one guy on this very board that hated Chad just because he was a Southerner. I don't see any of the "Chad haters" talking about Vinny's injury in 1999. Did he give any of his salary back for all the games he missed that season for the Jets? If I recall he didn't. It wasn't his fault he got injured back then, so why is it Chad's fault now? Oh never mind you don't have to answer that because we all now that answer. Because Vinny got us to the AFC Championship Game (7 seasons ago) and Chad didn't. I guess back in the 1970's Joe Namath should have given some of his salary back for the games he missed back then because of his injuries. I hope Chad comes back, but like I said I was a Jets fan looong before I even knew who Chad Pennington was and I will be a Jets fan looong after Chad Pennington retires.

If I could strap up the pads again and try out for a team, I would. But my college football hopes were shot with high school football injuries I returned too soon from. Try being 15 - 16 with 2 herniated discs and losing feeling on the left side of your body... to ignore doctors, forge medical papers to play again senior year, and never play again. Trust me when I say how important it is to make sure you're fully rehabbed. And that's at a high school level, where I wasn't paid $64m to be THE MAN for the team.

So because of all that you know what's best for Chad Pennington now. Well okay Doc what's best for Jay Fiedler's injury? Is it still a good idea for Donovan McNabb to still be playing even though he needs surgery, Doc? Should Teddy Bruschi come back this season if he feels good enough to play and should he give some of his salary back to the Patriots? Should Takeo Spikes give back some of his salary back to the Bills since he's done for the season like Chad Pennington? Do you think Michael Vick should start next week for the Falcons even though he had to leave the game yesterday because of his knee?

I mean it is all their own faults for getting injured, right?

You know what if the o-line continues to play the way they have Brooks, Vinny, and Curtis might be on the sidelines in street clothes and a Jets cap like Chad and Jay were for the rest of the season.

P.S.
We do agree on one thing I guess. I too am still an American even if I disagree with some if not most of the President's decisions (just to place things in perspective for you).

[CrazyHorseDave]

please play nice kids .. I know loosing is tough .. but lets try not to make this personal

mmkay?

thanks

[Amen]

Hi, my name's Mr_Jet and I can not grasp simple concepts or compute any other person's thoughts no matter how articulately, clearly, or simply spelled out they may be for me. Discussing anything with me is futile, because I focus on one point, exaggerate it to no end, and refute those points that I exaggerated to support my argument. I'll put words in your mouth (or keyboard) to aggravate me so much that I'll be forced to respond with 3 or 4 followup sentences to a point that wasn't even made to begin with.

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That's pretty much all I get out of your posts.

[CrazyHorseDave]

done