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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:52 AM

Well I introduce you to Donnie Henderson AKA the MAD DOG. He took our 21st overall team to 7th in one season. Last season. We are ranked 12th and look at time of possesion from what we have compared to the oppositon. Were getting killed. Whick leaves are defense on the field longer.

26:31 Jets
33:29 opp

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Jets..55
opp..72

If your samrt you'll figure it out. With that said were are still ranked 12th.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:53 AM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 5 2005, 02:26 AM)
Hahahaha, you still don't mention that you guys have a better offense than us and  can sustain drives, keeping your defense from getting worn out and exposed.

If the debate begins and ends with with what has been done through four games this year, why are you bothering to post at all?

Our offense is a quesiton mark this weekend. Pittman CAN have a great game, we CAN open up the air attack. Your D is good, but not stellar.

Besides... our D should have you so confused by the time they get tired in the 4th quarter, you'll be too far behind to really make it matter.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:54 AM

your offense is ranked 17th and you just lost your star running back. on top of that your ranked your ranked 23rd in passing. lol there is no way your offense is going to score 24 points on us. the jets are in do or die mode. if we can beat the illustrious bucs then we could pull this shit out. we want this win badly buc boy. it's not going to be half as easy as you couch potatoes lead it on to be.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 12:59 AM

QUOTE (LocoJet @ Oct 5 2005, 02:29 AM)
your offense is ranked 17th and you just lost your star running back. on top of that your ranked your ranked 23rd in passing. lol there is no way your offense is going to score 24 points on us. the jets are in do or die mode. if we can beat the illustrious bucs then we could pull this shit out. we want this win badly buc boy. it's not going to be half as easy as you couch potatoes lead it on to be.


OK, try to follow this...

When you have a stud RB who gets the most yardage EVER in his first 3 games... you don't NEED to throw it a lot, hence the lower ranking.

The ONLY threat we have is Griese getting ansy and throwing picks. Galloway, Clayton, Hilliard, Becht, Smith, A-Train and Pittman can all catch rather well.

I never said it will be easy.

I just don't see you guys having a shot unless:

1- Vinny targets Bolden (Our shitty CB)
2- Your O-line remebers how to block
3- Your D can step up and stop our run completely
4- Nugent can be a lock at 65 yards.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE (Buc Fan @ Oct 5 2005, 12:28 AM)
Our offense is a quesiton mark this weekend.  Pittman CAN have a great game, we CAN open up the air attack.  Your D is good, but not stellar.

Besides...  our D should have you so confused by the time they get tired in the 4th quarter, you'll be too far behind to really make it matter.


You're really talking the talk, but you're not backing it up with anything. When we say something like, "our def is really good," you mock it and say we don't have anything to back it up.

Pittman, looking at his history, probably won't have a great game although there is a 50/50 chance he'll haev a fumble looking at his numbers from last year. The passing attack, can make a few big plays, it has proven that, but it has also been average other than that.

Our Def was #7 last year in a tougher conference. We upgraded this year. Show that we have just an OK defense and you might have a little more credibility.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:02 AM

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there is no way your offense is going to score 24 points on us.


Put that in the memory bank so you can eat your shit after sunday. Our "O" won't be the only part of the team scoring.


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IF we can beat the illustrious bucs then we could pull this shit out


You said it all.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE (BucsGonnaRollOnYou @ Oct 5 2005, 01:37 AM)
Put that in the memory bank so you can eat your shit after sunday.  Our "O" won't be the only part of the team scoring.
You said it all.


Well I introduce you to Donnie Henderson AKA the MAD DOG. He took our 21st overall team to 7th in one season. Last season. We are ranked 12th and look at time of possesion from what we have compared to the oppositon. Were getting killed. Whick leaves are defense on the field longer.

26:31 Jets
33:29 opp

Total first downs
Jets..55
opp..72

If your samrt you'll figure it out. With that said were are still ranked 12th.

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:06 AM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Oct 5 2005, 02:35 AM)
Our Def was #7 last year in a tougher conference. 


Live in the past...

In the here and now... you're 1-3 and look like crap pinning your hopes on an untested QB and a Geritol poster child QB

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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:07 AM

Heh I'm samrt.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Buc Fan @ Oct 5 2005, 01:34 AM)
The ONLY threat we have is Griese getting ansy and throwing picks.  Galloway, Clayton, Hilliard, Becht, Smith, A-Train and Pittman can all catch rather well.

You must be joking.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:08 AM

QUOTE (Buc Fan @ Oct 5 2005, 12:41 AM)
Live in the past...

In the here and now... you're 1-3 and look like crap pinning your hopes on an untested QB and a Geritol poster child QB

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Says the guy who was talking about his 1000 yard back from last year. Wow! Way to forget five minutes ago and not even address the point of the post, which was the defense.

Let me remind you, I THINK WE WILL LOSE.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:09 AM

Good night guys...

Enjoyed the ribbing.

My daughter's up and sick. gotta fly.

Peace.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:11 AM

QUOTE (Buc Fan @ Oct 5 2005, 01:44 AM)
Good night guys...

Enjoyed the ribbing.

My daughter's up and sick.  gotta fly.

Peace.

Holy shit, the state of Florida allowed you to have raise a daughter?
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:11 AM

QUOTE (Buc Fan @ Oct 5 2005, 01:44 AM)
Good night guys...

Enjoyed the ribbing.

My daughter's up and sick.  gotta fly.

Peace.


Hope she's feeling O.K. Man, i have a daughter to 2 and a half. I know how it is.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:13 AM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Oct 5 2005, 01:42 AM)
You must be joking.



hysterical.gif . Some how i don't think he is, I think is really being serious. Isn't that scary. hysterical.gif
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:14 AM

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Holy shit, the state of Florida allowed you to have raise a daughter?


That's *beep*ing low even for a Jets fan.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:14 AM

Also assclown he's from Texas.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:15 AM

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That's *beep*ing low even for a Jets fan.

Oh it's just *beep*ing around. Take it easy.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:15 AM

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OK, try to follow this...

When you have a stud RB who gets the most yardage EVER in his first 3 games... you don't NEED to throw it a lot, hence the lower ranking.

The ONLY threat we have is Griese getting ansy and throwing picks. Galloway, Clayton, Hilliard, Becht, Smith, A-Train and Pittman can all catch rather well.

I never said it will be easy.

I just don't see you guys having a shot unless:

1- Vinny targets Bolden (Our shitty CB)
2- Your O-line remebers how to block
3- Your D can step up and stop our run completely
4- Nugent can be a lock at 65 yards.


#3 is the our best shot. when pittman doesn't deliver (trust me our front 7 will annihilate him) your going to have to start passing. i don't think your going to do alot against our secondary. i see law, barrett, coleman and rhodes getting picks and possibly taking some to the house. #2 would be nice and it would be about time. #4 is cute but we wont be needing him from that far thank you. #1 might even be bollinger. whoever is our qb we'll target whatever is open. our problem has been no blocking. no defense is flawless. there will be alot more holes than your nickel cb and we'll be able to exploit if we get some blocking.
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Posted 05 October 2005 - 01:19 AM

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Put that in the memory bank so you can eat your shit after sunday. Our "O" won't be the only part of the team scoring.


if you think the bucs offense will score 24 points against us then i smell a sig bet. you in?

*edit* i'll bet you sigs that your offense defense and special teams don't score 24 combined.
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