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Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
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Trading Moss Was The Biggest Mistake

#1 User is offline   Independista Icon

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:33 PM

This man is agruebly the best WR in the NFL, he leads the NFL in recieving yards, is a fantastic returner, and is accually productive.

Coles doesn't even lead the team in yards, McCarien does.


Bad Bradway, bad.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:39 PM

lol best WR in the league?

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:43 PM

Please someone close this topic PLEASE we had *beep*en 100 topics like this and its getting on every TRUE Jets fans last pain of a ass...
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:47 PM

No...misusing Moss was the biggest mistake...
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:50 PM

He is far from the best WR in the league.

He is having a great year in Washington I will give him that, maybe a combination of Hacketts conservative, run first, second, and third Offense and the fact that he didn't want to get hurt so ran out of bounds on every punt return, along with having fragile hamstrings and aligator arms on passes he should have caught hurt his performance for us last year, but he fits in well with Washington, Ramsey wouldn't get it done with them, Brunnell is doing a much better job, can get him the deep ball better than Chad could here.

But the guy has cronically bad hammys, that will follow him through his career,. he has learned to play with that, treat them and keep them loose, but I still stick with my prediction that he will yet have another hamstring injury.

Until then, he has been a much better player for them than Coles.

I give Coles here a pass though, with our QB problems, our Offense is struggling, of course Coles production is also going to be down as well.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 06:53 PM

just aother one of the great moves by our team yahoo.gif
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Oct 23 2005, 07:22 PM)
No...misusing Moss was the biggest mistake...





I'm not even going to comment on you... just highlighted to show the world what you just said and did not say a coupe of months ago when we got Coles




PLEASE SHUT THIS WASTE OF TIME TOPIC OF THIS IS THE 20th Topic i'm getting sick of this oready for god sakes man he is not a jet *beep*.... Coles is better than Moss with a good QB bottom line
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:07 PM

Right now Santana is playing great, but the fact was for a 1st round draft pick in 4 yrs with the JETS he was misused... and when we did use him he dropped big balls, played half heartedly and was always injured. Ever since the 01 hammy he was always hurt.

On Lamont Jordan I am happy for him. Even if the JETS payed him 10 mil a year he was going to leave because he wanted to START! Also remember LJ and the Raiders are (2-4) same as us
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (Patriotkillas @ Oct 23 2005, 08:28 PM)
just aother one of the great moves by our team yahoo.gif


Would things be any different for us this year if we had Moss instead of Coles?

We would be in the same situation.

I don't blame any of the moves Bradway has done so far, he got us Kendell, Law, Fiedler, Blaylock, Barrett, Barton, McCarrens, some moves better than others, but none were bad moves in my opinion.

Nobody complained about the trade for Coles before, now it is a big issue? I think Coles is still a better all around WR, he is just on an Offense that has serious problems right now.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Independista @ Oct 23 2005, 07:08 PM)
This man is agruebly the best WR in the NFL, he leads the NFL in recieving yards, is a fantastic returner, and is accually productive.

Coles doesn't even lead the team in yards, McCarien does.
Bad Bradway, bad.

I made the topic when the Redskins took the 49ers through the mud! blowup.gif

But on topic, Amen. Trading him was a bonehead move.

That's like trading Ben Rothleisberger for Joey Harrington.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:30 PM

If Santana was in NY...and Coles was in Washington

Coles would have Moss' numbers and Moss would have Coles' numbers...and we'd be complaining about not maing the trade....

Do you guys honestly think that if we had Santana right now and not coles we'd have a different record, or Chad wouldn't be hurt, or Brooks would still be in...please tlel me

Look at the QBs
Washington-Healthy
NewYork...Injured...Injured...Not develpoped...Old

I mean f we still had Santana...nothing would be different aside from the Speacial teams


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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (Vilma#51 @ Oct 23 2005, 07:40 PM)
I'm not even going to comment on you... just highlighted to show the world what you just said and did not say a coupe of months ago when we got Coles
PLEASE SHUT THIS WASTE OF TIME TOPIC OF THIS IS THE 20th Topic i'm getting sick of this oready for god sakes man he is not a jet *beep*.... Coles is better than Moss with a good QB bottom line



Who the *beep* are you? Did I say once in there that we shouldn't have gotten Coles you presumptious little *beep*! Don't jump to accuse people so easily when you don't even take the time to read my post!

Now, take a second...sit your ass down...and listen!

The topic was entitled, "Trading Moss was the biggest mistake"

And I replied, "No, misuing Moss was the biggest mistake!"

Key word there was no...as in trading Moss was not a mistake...I think getting Coles was better for our system. We don't have a strong armed QB, which is what Moss needs. Now I like Moss a lot. But I know for our QB and our system Coles is better. That doesn't mean I didn't wish we used Moss to his strengths while he was here...instead of trying to turn him into something he's not.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 07:51 PM

it was the ONLY, i repeat ONLY move with the situation we were in. how come everyone on here is saying how dumb the move was and how the FO shouldnt have done it, when there wasnt one person on here against it when it happened. the fact is that it was the best move in that situation and moss has a healthy quarterback who isnt 90 years old. who knows how coles could be doing if he had chad throwing to him. stop all this nonsense, stop blaming the FO when there was no way they could see into the future and have some faith.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 08:46 PM

Yeh so I guess when Moss ends up leading the NFL in recieving yards, he still won't be consider "elite".


Moss was our most explosive offensive player, hell, if Moss was on this team, Vinny still has a good arm, much better than Chad, he just needs to bomb it to Moss any time, even with no pass blocking, Moss is impossible to cover, the guy is a speed demon and is extremely atheletic.


Moss is yonger, faster, more atheletic, and is already on the elite level.

Coles has been a disappointment, even when Chad was QB, Coles never played like a #1 WR.


We *beep*ed up, we need to face reality.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 08:56 PM

thats bullshit and you know it. you have no way of knowing how coles would be doing if we had a healthy quarterback. and i see you forgot that fact that moss shyed away from contact and all 185 pounds of him constantly got *beep*ed while he was out there. some guys just click on other teams. to say that we'd be doing good with the equivalent of a 4th string QB and moss on this team is just dumb.

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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:12 PM

nice when i said it wa sone of the worst trades in jets history from big and coles is shit just wants $$$ 99% of u disagreed!!! only thing stoping moss from doing wat hes doing now was chad and hacket he was great all along.. i miss him =(
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:20 PM

Posts like this are typical when your team is struggling and a player you had is flourishing somehwere else.

I don't recall one post complaing about trading Moss for Coles when it happened, not one, Coles is a tougher, solid WR who goes up for the ball and can out muscle a Defenser to come down with it, he has speed to get deep and is willing to go over the middle, is Moss?

Moss is florishing in Washington right now, can he keep it up for the full season without pulling a hammy? we will see.

One thing I remember from last time Coles ws here and Vinny was our QB, he and Coles did not have a chemistry, seemed Coles was invisible out there, then Chad came in and he was hitting Coles all day, did Coles suddenly start getting open? or was Vinny just not throwing it to him?

This season is basically a bust, we have a makeshift O line, Vinny does not have solid protection, our starting RB is playing with an injury, I do not expect much this year, I have hopes but I know reality too.

Hopefully next year we can get our Offense back on track, and with a solid QB I am sure Coles will flourish under Dinger's Offense.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:25 PM

ok this has to get closed.
Get it done MT
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:37 PM

I reopened this topic. Should of never been closed.You all know my view on this trade. Coles should of never left. we traded a jet for another Jet. Bradway sat on his ass and made no moves to Coles. he waited til Snyder made a ridiculous offer and said there's no way the Jets would of matched that offer. I wouldn't match it either. Coles could of stayed for less. He madea business descision. Bradway had first right to negotiate but didn't. That's how we lost Coles. He's no keyshawn. Moss is having a good year because of the QB and the system around him. He would of never got that chance with us this year. Coles is the better WR. But that's not the issue. The issue is with the trade. Brininging Coles proves me and jetfannobagoverhead right. Remember him. Instead we ended up withConway which cost an extra 2 wins in that season. You don't trade for a player you drafted with another. I don't the gains in this trade. Trading Jordan for Pippen after they played with each other for years wouldn't sound right to a lot of people. I know Moss and coles are far from those guys. Just trying to prove a point. Keep the topic open. This is good talk.
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Posted 23 October 2005 - 09:39 PM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Oct 23 2005, 08:25 PM)
Who the *beep* are you?  Did I say once in there that we shouldn't have gotten Coles you presumptious little *beep*!  Don't jump to accuse people so easily when you don't even take the time to read my post!

Now, take a second...sit your ass down...and listen!

The topic was entitled, "Trading Moss was the biggest mistake"

And I replied, "No, misuing Moss was the biggest mistake!"

Key word there was no...as in trading Moss was not a mistake...I think getting Coles was better for our system.  We don't have a strong armed QB, which is what Moss needs.  Now I like Moss a lot.  But I know for our QB and our system Coles is better.  That doesn't mean I didn't wish we used Moss to his strengths while he was here...instead of trying to turn him into something he's not.







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