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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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A Letter To The New York Jets

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 10:27 AM

About The GM;

Terry Bradway never achieved greatness at Kansas City. He had worked for eight years in the Chiefs' front office, three as their director of player personnel. He was promoted to that post after spending five years as the Chiefs' director of college scouting. He also worked for seven years as a scout with the New York Giants and three years as assistant director of player personnel for the Philadelphia/Baltimore Stars of the old USFL.

Rod Graves, Terry Bradway and Billy Kuharich, who shared an apartment, had been hired by general manager Carl Peterson to find players to help the USFL compete with the NFL.

Graves is the Arizona Cardinals' vice president of football operations. The organizations record under Graves is as follows; (1999 6-10), (2000 3-13), (2001 7-9), (2002 5-11) (2003 4-12) and (2004 2-14).

Kuharich would orchestrate the drafting of Ricky Williams at New Orleans. If you all recall, they traded Washington for Ricky Williams for all six of Saints’ picks that year (1-12, 3-71, 4-107, 5-144, 6-179 and 7-218) plus 1st and 3rd-round choices in 2000 that became the 2nd and 64th overall.

Bradway is with the Jets the same guy who gave up 2 first round picks in 2003 for Dewayne Robertson. He could have picked the following TWO players that year... Troy Polamalu SS, Willis McGahee RB, Jordon Gross OT, and Terrance Newman CB. TWO!

He traded a #2 pick in 2004 to an AFC rival Tennessee for Justin McCareins WR., Julius Jones RB was available and so was Igor Oleshansky DT, Tatum Bell RB and Nate Kaeding K.

He gave up a #1 pick in 2005 for TE Doug Jolley to another AFC team …Oakland. The team that dashed our playoff hopes 2 out of 4 years.

He keeps keep trading to AFC rivals......WHY? What about the NFC. Especially Oakland?


About the Coach:

I have always criticized the Herman Edwards' hiring because he lacks certain things a coach needs in order to build a great football team.

1) He had no prior head coaching experience; no offensive or defensive coordinator experience at any level. He was a Defensive Backs Coach from 1996-2000 for Tampa Bay and a defensive backs coach and a scout for the Kansas City Chiefs for six seasons (1990-95).

2) In 1999, he interviewed for a head coaching job in Kansas City he was quoted as saying "A lot of guys have been successful who're not coordinators," Edwards said. "Some guys have talked to me about it, but I prefer the situation I'm in now. I don't have to call plays. I want to run it; that's the situation I'm looking for." source St. Petersburg Times, published January 20, 1999

3) He prefers the 'group hug" approach to coaching and allows his coordinators to make their own decisions. The only problem is because he lacks experience, he does not know how to correct mistakes. This has plagued him each and every year. Who can forget the 6-10 year with Mo Lewis and Marvin Jones using "walkers" to tackle opposing running backs. Meanwhile Paul Hackett was throwing 2-3 yard passes on 3rd and 9. He clearly lacked leadership over his people. Santana Moss returned punts for 2 years before he was utilized in the offense.

4) Clock Management issues cost them 6 games at least in his 4 years. He still has not learned this portion of the game and continue to make the same clock management mistakes. He had problems again last week against Carolina. Who could forget calling a time out before the half and then running 40 seconds off the clock with a running play to Curtis Martin to finish the half. He risked injury to Martin and other players. For what.. a 6 yard gain! His clock management has cost this team 1-2 games per year.

5) One might argue that he has taken a JETS team to the playoffs off and on for 3 years. This was basically the same team that went 12-3 and was one-half away from going to the Super bowl under another head coach.

6) In 2001, Herman went 10-6 and improved the Jets by 1 game from the then 9-7 Al Groh. (2002 9-7), (2003 6-10), (2004 10-6) and (2005 2-7 so far) . His record currently stands at 39-39.

When you said that the defense needed a change, we fired Ted Cottrell. When you said that your offense needed a change, we fired Paul Hackett. When you said you needed help with running the clock and time management, we hired a clock management coach. You said before you just want to run the team and being a coordinator isn't important...well... run the team! We cannot keep hiring people to cover for your your lack of knowledge of game-day management.

You even had the most accurate passer in the league 2 years ago in Chad Pennington and the leagues leading rusher last year in Curtis Martin. You should be lucky to have these players. Because you and Bradway would have never had them in the first place. You guys would have probably drafted more safeties!

You give a 2-5 team that is struggling in every facet of the game an entire week off! You hold light summer camps (shoulder pads & helmets), veterans are given way too much time off in practices and your camp never focuses on the basics of football. INJURIES are related to poor summer camps and winter training programs. Tackling is always an issue with your teams. Hit more at camp! Why are most of the injuries on Offense? You should be managing this issue! This team needs a leader...not a cheerleader! A coach for the player's... not a players' coach!


To The Owner,

Keep your options open for next season. There are plenty of good people in the league that can help this club win a championship. You should be looking for a coach that can prepare your players during the off season. You should be looking for a conservative GM who works with the cards that are dealt him.

Suggestions: Art Shell Head Coach Vince Tobin General Manager
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Posted 20 November 2005 - 11:13 AM

Shouldn't this be in the J*E*T*S - Just End the Season forum?
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