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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (27 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) the excuses, Hill is just a terrible football player. no debate, just a fact. guy is soft as shit as well
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 AM) right cause all our other WRs were lighting it up
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 07:04 PM) Hill is useless bro lol
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:05 PM) All I can say I streamed this game and if anyone thinks about recording it from NFL Network at 4pm Eastern Saturday.....DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:07 PM) This game was pure sh1t. Even though it was back up players the Jets got totally destroyed in this game. After seeing this game Im really worried about the Jets starting core because these backup guys looked like they shouldn't have even been on the field at all. I just hope the starters are 3000 times better than these guys that played in game 4
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:09 PM) The Jets got horse f*cked by the Eagles in this game.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:24 PM) we are hosed in the secondary
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:26 PM) we need to cut this assclown patterson
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:34 PM) did Hill get cut yet?
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) lol. We might need to look at the Eagles cuts for possible 2nd and 3rd stringers
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (Today, 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (Today, 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
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What We Can Learn From 1995 & 1996! Kotite shouldered all the blame!

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 05:49 PM

Rich Kotite had a 11-5 record in 1991. He also had a 10-6 record in 1992 and an 8-8 record in 1993. After a 7-9 season in 1994, he was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.

He was hired by the Jets in 1995 (who had a record of 4-12 in 1992, 8-8 in 1993 and 6-10 in 1994). This team was so bad that they had not had a winning season since 1987.

The 1995 draft turned out to be pivotal in Jets history as they had 2 number one picks and instead of drafting a well known defensive tackle named Warren Sapp They chose Kyle Brady. Jets fans were booing all over the world. Rich Haley took over duties of running and organizing the draft after the late general manager Rich Steinberg was diagnosed with stomach cancer in December of 1994. Haley joined the Jets in 1991 as the team director of player personnel and oversaw the Jets' scouts and the evaluation of collegiate player personnel.

The 1995 New York Jets Draft:

1 Kyle Brady Penn State TE
1 Hugh Douglas Central State (OH) DE
3 Matt O'Dwyer Northwestern G
4 Melvin Hayes Mississippi State T
4 Tyrone Davis Virginia WR
5 Carl Greenwood UCLA DB
6 Eddie Mason North Carolina LB
7 Curtis Ceaser Grambling WR

The Jets continued to be active in the free agent market, signing seven unrestricted free agents: QB Bubby Brister, RB-KR Dexter Carter, S Gary Jones and Todd Scott, DT-DE Erik Howard and Matt Brock and CB Otis Smith

The 1996 New York Jets Draft

1 Johnson, Keyshawn WR USC
2 Van Byke, Alex WR Nevada
3 Mickens, Ray DB Texas A&M
4 Choice to Tampa Bay - -
5 Coleman, Marcus DB Texas Tech
6 Hunter, Hugh DE Hampton
7 Hayes, Chris DB Washington State

in 1996, T David Williams was the first player to sign with the Jets as a FA, leading a long line of players that included T John Elliott, QB's Neil O'Donnell and Frank Reich and WR Jeff Graham. (Feb. 15).

Sadly Steinberg died September 1995 prior to the start of the season and the Jets would go on to finish 3-13 behind Bubby Brister and Boomer Esiason. WR's were Wayne Chrebet and Charles Wilson and Ryan Yarborough.

In 1996 the Jets would have their worst season finishing at 1-15. Neil O'Donnell, Frank Reich and Gelnn Foley shared QB duties. Wayne Chrebet, Jeff Graham and Rookie Keyshawn Johnson were the WR's. QB Neil O'Donnell suffered a shoulder injury in game six vs. Oakland and would miss six games due to the injury. He was scheduled to return to action in game 13 vs. Houston, but suffered a torn calf muscle in pregame warmups, sidelining him for the remainder of the season.

And so it goes Rich Kotite having been proclaimed worst coach in Jets History.

Note: I cannot even remember players that were free agent pickups and drafted and most of the starters. Both drafts were conducted by Rich Haley and were the poorest drafts in recent memory. The Jets has 3 coaches in the last 4 years prior to the 1996 season (Bruce Coslet Pete Carroll and Rich Kotite) and all were below .500.

We can learn that if you do not draft well and have an unstable team roster situation, your teams can suffer. In the end, it cost Kotite his career and reputation. Those 2 years defined him as a head coach. Its a shame that he left quietly and took all the blame. I respect him for not placing blame on Haley's drafts and poor personnel selection. He took it like a man! I sure as hell wouldn't!
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:02 PM

I'd hate to tell you, but with all the bullshit you have said earlier, well, no one gives a flying *beep* of what you say now, so why don't you go to that better jets fan site.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:09 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Dec 2 2005, 06:37 PM)
I'd hate to tell you, but with all the bullshit you have said earlier, well, no one gives a flying *beep* of what you say now, so why don't you go to that better jets fan site.



Mr. Bizkit 87,


I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 06:44 PM)
Mr. Bizkit 87,
I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.



WOW... that was uncalled for dude. Apologize immediately. That was not cool, No class at all.

You make me sick

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 05:44 PM)
Mr. Bizkit 87,
I am glad you finally found the time to stop raping your little sister and were able to respond to me in such a fashion.





OHHH, this explains why your posts alternation from Positive to Negetive


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Posted 02 December 2005 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Dec 2 2005, 07:01 PM)
WOW... that was uncalled for dude. Apologize immediately. That was not cool, No class at all.

You make me sick




Class. When you start a fight be prepared for what comes next! Bizkit had no right hopping into my thread and calling it bullshit. An Insult is an insult. There are no varying degrees. I am assuming you want to be the peacemaker. We'll go make peace elsewhere! Your opinions do not matter to me! This is between he and I shitweed! beach.gif
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 3 2005, 12:53 AM)
Class.    When you start a fight be prepared for what comes next!  Bizkit had no right hopping into my thread and calling it bullshit.  An Insult is an insult.  There are no varying degrees. I am assuming you want to be the peacemaker.  We'll go make peace elsewhere!    Your opinions do not matter to me!  This is between he and I shitweed! beach.gif


Dude, you just do not get it, do you? You said you "found" a "better" jets fan site then this, and yet you still happen to come and post here? WHY? I just really want to know. You know your hated on this site, so why not just leave.

I actually did have a right you insult you, because everyone happens to be insulting you here, if you have not noticed yet.

So dude, just shut up, or get the hell out of here.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:28 PM

Well... there are different levels and degree's of an insult. He said it was bullshit and you refer to ancestery and molestation as a comeback. You my friend are a sick demented lilttle man.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Dec 2 2005, 09:03 PM)
Well... there are different levels and degree's of an insult. He said it was bullshit and you refer to ancestery and molestation as a comeback. You my friend are a sick demented lilttle man.



Thank You! crazy.gif crazy.gif crazy.gif crazy.gif
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 3 2005, 02:13 AM)
Thank You! crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif


Why not do us all a favor, and leave this website, it would be for the best for both the site, and yourself.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:54 PM

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GO HOME! noone likes you your a discrace to all the Jets fans on this board.
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Posted 02 December 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Dec 2 2005, 09:13 PM)
Thank You! crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif  crazy.gif



Mo...les..ta..tion. Did you read that right?.. and you are finding that humorus?. Your a peice of shit. Your computer is probably filled with child porn to isn't?. O.K I'm out of this conversation becasue i am literally starting to feel ill and your lucky there is an internet becasue if I saw you out at a bar or on the street you would be drinking and eating threw a straw after I knocked your teeth down your throat.
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 12:42 AM

Bizkit deserves some thrashing on this board since he insults everyone he disagrees with, but that was uncalled for. Topic Done.
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