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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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#1 User is offline   Jetsfan115 Icon

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 12:35 AM

funny but true

i can quote several people here saying they would pay teams to take herm or they would trade him for a candy bar etc. then get mad cause we got a 4th. u guys know who u are. i liked herm until he turned his back on us, so i can bitch
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 01:09 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ Jan 12 2006, 02:10 AM)
funny but true

i can quote several people here saying they would pay teams to take herm or they would trade him for a candy bar etc. then get mad cause we got a 4th. u guys know who u are. i liked herm until he turned his back on us, so i can bitch


That's very true but once the Jets brass found out that Carl Peterson was tampering with a coach again (he had to give up a 2 and a 3 in the Vermeil tampering case) the Jets were foolish to let KC off the hook. They certainly would have been able to get at least a pick from the first day as punishment for KC. Instead they settle for a 4th with no beef in a clear cut case of tampering.
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 02:47 AM

i was also still a herm fan and never ripped on the guy. sure he wasnt perfect but id rather have him here then ,amy of the coaches rumored to be comming here. I am pissed off at him now that he left but again the way we handled this he had no choice to leave.

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 08:26 AM

I wanted to get rid of Herm...I'm not denying that. But it's just like running a business. You have something the other guy wants. You don't give it up for nothing regardless of how bad you want to get rid of it. KC wanted Herm, we had him. Plain and simple. You want him, then pony up and put your money where your mouth is.

We could have gotten more for him on Ebay...I know I could have traded him for an original Optimus Prime or Omega Supreme
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 09:19 AM

QUOTE (VinnyTheGinny @ Jan 12 2006, 09:01 AM)
I wanted to get rid of Herm...I'm not denying that.  But it's just like running a business.  You have something the other guy wants.  You don't give it up for nothing regardless of how bad you want to get rid of it.  KC wanted Herm, we had him.  Plain and simple.  You want him, then pony up and put your money where your mouth is.

We could have gotten more for him on Ebay...I know I could have traded him for an original Optimus Prime or Omega Supreme


Agreed...ATLEAST A FIRST DAY PICK!!! HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND SAY ALL WE COULD GET WAS A 4TH BRADWAY!!!
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 09:36 AM

I liked Herm too. Still do. But I don't see how that affects the fact that the Jets absolutely should have gotten more than a 4th round pick for him. They did have him under contract, after all.

Geez, the Jets believed the Browns when they told them, "Heck no! We won't give you any more than a fourth rounder for Edwards", then within a couple of hours, the Browns turned around and gave Edwards $3 million a year.

Meanwhile, most 4th round picks aren't even on the team a year later.
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 12 2006, 09:54 AM)
Agreed...ATLEAST A FIRST DAY PICK!!!  HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC WITH A STRAIGHT FACE AND SAY ALL WE COULD GET WAS A 4TH BRADWAY!!!

Wouldn't it be funny if that pick turned out to be an all-pro biggrin.gif We'd all be on Bradways dick like butter on toast.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:10 AM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Jan 12 2006, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't it be funny if that pick turned out to be an all-pro biggrin.gif We'd all be on Bradways dick like butter on toast.


and we're all loving Leon now aren't we baby! beach.gif


(One year ago to the day I bring this post back lol)
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:26 AM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Jan 12 2006, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't it be funny if that pick turned out to be an all-pro biggrin.gif We'd all be on Bradways dick like butter on toast.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Jan 12 2006, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't it be funny if that pick turned out to be an all-pro biggrin.gif We'd all be on Bradways dick like butter on toast.


I dunno about butter on toast... maybe you prefer spaghetti and meatball?

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:29 PM

Yeah I'm glad we got Leon...but that still doesn't change the fact we probably should have had a second rounder...a second rounder could have turned into Maurice Jones Drew...

Who would you rather have...Maurice Drew or Leon Washington?

Plus...we can't be on Bradway's dick...because he didn't make the pick...the props go to Tangini now...
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 05:43 PM

any1 else notice that not only has it been about a year since this topic but night owl tom posted in this thread...
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 06:46 PM

QUOTE (beanz @ Jan 12 2007, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dunno about butter on toast... maybe you prefer spaghetti and meatball?

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Mangini and Chad go together like lamb and tunafish.
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 07:39 PM

Herm for Leon= trade of the decade (for the Jets at least) along with Magini filling the spot

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (cmart=the best @ Jan 12 2007, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Herm for Leon= trade of the decade (for the Jets at least) along with Magini filling the spot


I think the trade of the decade was Eli Manning for Philip Rivers, Shawne Merriman, and Nate Kaeding. Was there anyone else the Chargers got off that trade?

Actually...I know that was the trade of the decade...
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Posted 12 January 2007 - 11:55 PM

QUOTE (JetsOhFive @ Jan 12 2007, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mangini and Chad go together like lamb and tunafish.


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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:37 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Jan 13 2007, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the trade of the decade was Eli Manning for Philip Rivers, Shawne Merriman, and Nate Kaeding. Was there anyone else the Chargers got off that trade?

Actually...I know that was the trade of the decade...


iagree.gif SD has made two great trades since 2001 when they traded the #1 overall to Atlanta who took Vick and the Chargers got Tomlinson. However that trade didn't bring the Chargers as many impact players as the trade made with the Giants. SD fans shouldn't boo Eli whenever they play the Giants because his bitching got the Chargers three damn good players.
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Posted 13 January 2007 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE (Smedsthejet @ Jan 13 2007, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
iagree.gif SD has made two great trades since 2001 when they traded the #1 overall to Atlanta who took Vick and the Chargers got Tomlinson. However that trade didn't bring the Chargers as many impact players as the trade made with the Giants. SD fans shouldn't boo Eli whenever they play the Giants because his bitching got the Chargers three damn good players.


Well that first trade got them LDT and Brees, the top 2 MVP candidates this year so I think you can say that trade was just as good. Either way both worked out great for them.
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