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Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jetsman05 Icon : (26 April 2015 - 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 08:06 PM

1. KC needs Defensive help. So he allows Al Saunders his offensive coordinator sign with Washington today.

2. He keeps a horrible Gunther Cunningham as Defensive Coordinator.

3. He alienates Priest Holmes and gives away his cards by announcing Larry Johnson as the starter. In January..great strategy Herm. Summer workouts won't be as intense because they are not working toward any goals.

4. Dick Curl is on his staff as clock guru.

Meanwhile...with the Jets


Eric Mangini is getting rid of all the black coaches. I saw the picture of the 5 crackers running our team. I hope he keeps a diverse team. One thing is for sure the coaching staff went Anglo in a hurry!
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 08:32 PM

Race dosn't mean anything! I am sure going to miss Donnie and Herm though.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 19 2006, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Eric Mangini is getting rid of all the black coaches. I saw the picture of the 5 crackers running our team. I hope he keeps a diverse team. One thing is for sure the coaching staff went Anglo in a hurry!



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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:02 PM

I guess the truth hurts.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:09 PM

That last line gave me a little laugh, but I doubt Magnini is racist.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:33 PM

I just want the team to be more diverse.
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 09:34 PM

Ok, can we please ban this guy now, he is now getting racial into his posts, he really needs to leave. It's obvious nobody likes him around here.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 01:01 AM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 20 2006, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want the team to be more diverse.


And that's cool. So do I, and so do I think most people rooting for the Jets. But just because those people hired are white, doesn't mean a whole lot. It could just mean Mangini thought those "crackers" were the best qualified.

By the way, I'm white, and I say cracker all the time. biggrin.gif
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 06:54 AM

I am not familiar with the word "cracker", please enlighten me.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 08:31 AM

I was wondering what happened to Jetbag, I see he crawled out from under his rock with a new name!
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 19 2006, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meanwhile...with the Jets
Eric Mangini is getting rid of all the black coaches. I saw the picture of the 5 crackers running our team. I hope he keeps a diverse team. One thing is for sure the coaching staff went Anglo in a hurry!



Rich, I thought last week you were saying that Herm was hired because of affirmative action. Now you want to keep the coaching staff more diversified? Please tell me that your just takin the piss.

Cracker n : a poor white person in the southern US [syn: redneck]

The origins of the term are uncertain. the term may have come from the word corncracker, which describes someone who cracks corn for liquor, a common practice especially in early Appalachia. Wilton writes, "The song lyric 'Jimmy Crack Corn' is a reference to this. In the song, a slave sings about how his master got drunk, fell, hit his head, and died. And the slave 'don't care.' (This was a pretty subversive song for its day.) This usage, however, is probably not the origin of the ethnic term cracker"

Clarence Major, in his Dictionary of Afro-American Slang, lists an interesting idea about the origin of the term. The first is that a "cracker" was a slang term used by 19th Century Georgian slaves to refer to the slavemasters. If this were in fact, true, then the term would come directly from the cracking of the slavemaster's whip. This is quite a peculiar theory, because it would immediately explain the negative connotation that the word has taken. However, there seems to be little or no support for this theory, and no other source that was studied mentions it.

Before the Milwaukee Braves baseball team moved to Atlanta, the Atlanta minor league baseball team was known as the "Atlanta Crackers." The team existed under this name from 1901 until 1965. They were members of the Southern Association from their inception until 1961, and members of the International League from 1961 until they were moved to Richmond, Virginia in 1965. Ironically, an Atlanta team in Negro League Baseball was known as the Atlanta "Black Crackers."


thats enough etymology and historical trivia for one day!
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE (Canuck Jet @ Jan 20 2006, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rich, I thought last week you were saying that Herm was hired because of affirmative action. Now you want to keep the coaching staff more diversified? Please tell me that your just takin the piss.

Cracker n : a poor white person in the southern US [syn: redneck]

The origins of the term are uncertain. the term may have come from the word corncracker, which describes someone who cracks corn for liquor, a common practice especially in early Appalachia. Wilton writes, "The song lyric 'Jimmy Crack Corn' is a reference to this. In the song, a slave sings about how his master got drunk, fell, hit his head, and died. And the slave 'don't care.' (This was a pretty subversive song for its day.) This usage, however, is probably not the origin of the ethnic term cracker"

Clarence Major, in his Dictionary of Afro-American Slang, lists an interesting idea about the origin of the term. The first is that a "cracker" was a slang term used by 19th Century Georgian slaves to refer to the slavemasters. If this were in fact, true, then the term would come directly from the cracking of the slavemaster's whip. This is quite a peculiar theory, because it would immediately explain the negative connotation that the word has taken. However, there seems to be little or no support for this theory, and no other source that was studied mentions it.

Before the Milwaukee Braves baseball team moved to Atlanta, the Atlanta minor league baseball team was known as the "Atlanta Crackers." The team existed under this name from 1901 until 1965. They were members of the Southern Association from their inception until 1961, and members of the International League from 1961 until they were moved to Richmond, Virginia in 1965. Ironically, an Atlanta team in Negro League Baseball was known as the Atlanta "Black Crackers."
thats enough etymology and historical trivia for one day!


That was very informative, thank you. funny.gif I like thought of a slave owner dying from head trauma.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:21 AM

Good stuff Canuck Jet.

On the main point of the article, don't you say that "Donnie needed to go" in another topic Rich? Considering that you belive so, and that the other coaches who were let go were in charge of underperforming units, I don't see how you could honestly believe that race played any part in it.

If you are just saying we need to be careful, I agree. While I don't believe race plays any part in Mangini's or the team's thought process they still need to be careful that the public doesn't get that impression.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:22 AM

Unfortunately, I believe the term "Cracker" is a degrogatory term used to describe a "white" person. AKA Whip "Cracker" "Slave owner" I don't believe that believe that mr richkotite2006 meant it as friendly term. Maybe Mr RK2006 can refrain from using the "Cracker" term on this site. Any derogatory term used towards ANY Race is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! Jetbag knows this!
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 10:54 AM

This asswipe definitely needs to go. The only reason he posts anymore is to incite something to cause trouble knowing that his posts are inflamatory.

What the hell does the fact that he's letting Donnie go have to do with race? Mangini was the DC in New England. I'm thinking his philosophy is different than that of Donnie, so rather than bumping heads, he released him to pursue a position elsewhere.

I don't like the decision myself as I think Donnie wa sdoing a great job with this Defense, but I'm not about to go accusing the man of being a racist without having something to back up my statements unlike some other people here that need to be on a permanent ban. Ban his IP address already!! Although the numbskull is probably on dial up therefore has an ever changing IP.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:05 PM

Cracker was originally a pejorative term for a white person, mainly used in the Southern United States. In recent years (as of 2006), the term has gained some currency as a prideful or jocular self-description. With the huge influx of new residents from the North, the term "Cracker" is now used informally by some white residents of Florida and Georgia ("Florida cracker" or "Georgia cracker") to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations. (The term "White Cracker" is usually not used self referentially and remains a slur.) Usage of the term "Cracker" generally differs from Hick and Hillbilly, because Crackers reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture, while Hicks and Hillbillies theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. In this way, the Cracker is similar to the Redneck.

As an insult, cracker was and is used most frequently in the South, especially in Georgia and Florida. It is invoked typically against poor, white Americans without formal education and of rural backgrounds.-

However, today the term is commonly used as a racial epithet against white people throughout the US, regardless of socio-economic status, ethnicity or geographic origins.


Etymology
There are various theories about the origin of the term "cracker." The term has been traced to the 1760s, when it was used by the Earl of Dartmouth to refer to frontiersmen who were "great boasters." It may be derived from the Gaelic "craic," meaning "entertaining conversation."

A folk etymology claims the term cracker originated from piney-woods Georgia and Florida pastoral yeomen's use of whips to drive cattle. The word then came to be associated with the cattlemen of Georgia and Florida.

Other theories include references to cracking a whip over oxen when driving cotton to market, the 18th century practice of cracking corn to make liquor, or to poor whites having had to crack their grain because they couldn't afford to take it to the local mill to have it ground. Others suggest that "cracker" derives from the white overseers who cracked the whip to intimidate black slaves. There may also be another possible origin - the first residents of Georgia were British convicts. In this setting the word takes on an illegal or criminal context. The term was used by Charles Darwin in The Origin of Species to refer to "Virginia squatters" (illegal settlers).

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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:45 PM

Hey I got an idea!!!!. How about we GET OFF of the Herm Edwards talk's and topic's. I don't think any Jet fan give 2 shit's what he's doing now and for somebody who hated Herm you sure do keep bringing him up.

He must be on your mind.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE (jetman18 @ Jan 20 2006, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was wondering what happened to Jetbag, I see he crawled out from under his rock with a new name!


Don't ever compare this fool to Jetfannobagoverhead.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:49 PM

Lets see...Eric Mangini gets hired and he's white. He fires 2 black coaches and keeps the 1 white coach. The black defensive coordinator was far superior than the white offensive coordinator in every possible statistic.
The white offesnive coordinator doesn't even want to be there! He should have fired everyone!

It is all about race. Only those people who dismiss it are the ones that are blind and do not want to see.

Head Coaching Hires

Jets: Mangini is white
Saints: Payton is white
Lions: Marinelli is white
Packers: MCarthy is white
Vikings: Childress is white
Bills: To be determined white person
Rams: Linehan is white
Texans: to be determined white person
Raiders: to be determined white person

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that everyone is afraid to hire a black head coach becuase Herman Edwards burned bridges.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 12:56 PM

I think he meant the crackers are Bradway, Tennenbaum, Woody Johnson, Mangini and Jay Cross



QUOTE (richkotite2006 @ Jan 20 2006, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets see...Eric Mangini gets hired and he's white. He fires 2 black coaches and keeps the 1 white coach. The black defensive coordinator was far superior than the white offensive coordinator in every possible statistic.
The white offesnive coordinator doesn't even want to be there! He should have fired everyone!

It is all about race. Only those people who dismiss it are the ones that are blind and do not want to see.

Head Coaching Hires

Jets: Mangini is white
Saints: Payton is white
Lions: Marinelli is white
Packers: MCarthy is white
Vikings: Childress is white
Bills: To be determined white person
Rams: Linehan is white
Texans: to be determined white person
Raiders: to be determined white person

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that everyone is afraid to hire a black head coach becuase Herman Edwards burned bridges.


What about Dungy, Edwards, Lovie Smith, Marvin Lewis, Denny Green and Romeo Crennel then? Shut up about race because nowadays it isn't an issue in HC hiring. Tim Lewis, Ron Rivera,Donnie, Mike Singletary and Jim Gray are just a few guys who are hispanic or black that will probably be HCs soon and all (and others) were interviewed for the current vacancies.
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