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azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 10:41 PM) How is that not PI?
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
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XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:39 PM

I'd be happy with this offseason, but the likelyness of it, means it wont happen.

Cuts:
Jason Fabini
Jareld Sowell
Ty Law
Jay Feidler

Restructure:
Curtis Martin
Chad Pennington (higher the price a little)
DeWayne Robertson
Shaun Ellis
Kevin Mawae (try to restrcure his contract)
Pete Kendall

Trade:
John Abraham for 12th overall pick (what can I say I like your ideas)
Justin McCariens for 3rd rounder (what can I say I like your ideas)
try to do a sign and trade w/ Law before, but ended up cutting him.

Free Agency:
QB Kerry Collins
HB DeShaun Foster
WR David Givens

Draft:
1st round - LT D'Brickshaw Ferguson
1st round (John Abraham) - DE Mario Williams
2nd round - CB Antonio Cromartie
3rd round (Justin McCariens) - OT Eric Winston
3rd round - DT Rodrique White
4th round - C Mike Degory
4th round (Herm) - CB/KR/PR Devin Hester
5th round - FB Garrett Mills
6th round - Best Available
7th round - Best Available
7th round - Best Available

Depth Chart:
QB: Chad Pennington/Kerry Collins/Brooks Bollinger
HB: Curtis Martin/DeShaun Foster/Cedric Houston
WR: Coles/Givens/Cotchery
TE: Baker
LT: Ferguson
LG: Kendall
C: Mawae
RG: Moore
RT: Winston

defense
DE: Williams
DT: Robertson
DT: Wright
DE: Ellis
OLB: Barton
MLB: Vilma
OLB: Hobson
CB1: Barrett
CB2: Miller
CB3: Cromartie
Cb4: Strait
FS: Coleman
SS: Rhodes

K: Nugent
P: Graham

KR1: Devin Hester
KR2: Justin Miller
PR1: Devin Hester
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ Feb 18 2006, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trade Abe for Rivers and a 1 or 2nd (I'll go with a first in my draft)

Round 1 - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Round 1 - LenDale White
Round 2 - Antonio Cromartie (at 6'3 who can run a 4.37 he's a beast)
Round 3 - Gabe Watson (if he were to fall to round 3 which I doubt there isn't really much NT type DTs) or Stanley McClover
Round 4 ???
Round 5 ???
Round 7 - Jahri Evans

Not bad, maybe you could get more specific in rounds 4-6 crazy.gif but not bad at all.
And JerseyJet, besides biasim, why would you take the 30th ranked DE with an early 3rd? 29 DEs aren't taken earlier than that. Maybe look at the 4-7 ranked DEs.
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Feb 18 2006, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On NFL draft scout.com they rate Neil as #30 of 150 DEs in the draft!


yea and...? idk if even 30 DEs will be drafted this year even if so im sure there are others ranked lower than him that would be drafted b4. nobody from rutgers was even invited to the combine.

JC pretty good overall draft but Mario is an elite prospect, hes un likley to get bye GB,Oakland, or San Fran..

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:43 PM

Check out my predicition, I wanted to be a little different, and I like it and all, but I dont think it will happen, but i'd definatly be happy with it.
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Feb 18 2006, 05:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be happy with this offseason, but the likelyness of it, means it wont happen.

Cuts:
Jason Fabini
Jareld Sowell
Ty Law
Jay Feidler

Restructure:
Curtis Martin
Chad Pennington (higher the price a little)
DeWayne Robertson
Shaun Ellis
Kevin Mawae (try to restrcure his contract)
Pete Kendall

Trade:
John Abraham for 12th overall pick (what can I say I like your ideas)
Justin McCariens for 3rd rounder (what can I say I like your ideas)
try to do a sign and trade w/ Law before, but ended up cutting him.

Free Agency:
QB Kerry Collins
HB DeShaun Foster
WR David Givens

Draft:
1st round - LT D'Brickshaw Ferguson
1st round (John Abraham) - DE Mario Williams
2nd round - CB Antonio Cromartie
3rd round (Justin McCariens) - OT Eric Winston
3rd round - DT Rodrique White
4th round - C Mike Degory
4th round (Herm) - CB/KR/PR Devin Hester
5th round - FB Garrett Mills
6th round - Best Available
7th round - Best Available
7th round - Best Available

Depth Chart:
QB: Chad Pennington/Kerry Collins/Brooks Bollinger
HB: Curtis Martin/DeShaun Foster/Cedric Houston
WR: Coles/Givens/Cotchery
TE: Baker
LT: Ferguson
LG: Kendall
C: Mawae
RG: Moore
RT: Winston

defense
DE: Williams
DT: Robertson
DT: Wright
DE: Ellis
OLB: Barton
MLB: Vilma
OLB: Hobson
CB1: Barrett
CB2: Miller
CB3: Cromartie
Cb4: Strait
FS: Coleman
SS: Rhodes

K: Nugent
P: Graham

KR1: Devin Hester
KR2: Justin Miller
PR1: Devin Hester

Hmm, I don't know, I'm split on it...
We won't be able to keep all those guys and sign all of the others. I like the Ty Law idea, trade him if you could.
However, I'm opposed to a first round DE, and there's no way Williams will go that far. Good second pick with Cromartie, though I'm not sure he'll fall that far.
No way Eric Winston falls that far, and you're forgetting about good and young Adrian Jones. crazy.gif
After that, I really like what you have. You really covered team needs, though some are unrealistic, as you smartfully stated. crazy.gif
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:57 PM

Yeah but are you gonna get guys like Mario Williams and Tamba what ever his name is get by the 3rd?
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QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Feb 18 2006, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, I don't know, I'm split on it...
We won't be able to keep all those guys and sign all of the others. I like the Ty Law idea, trade him if you could.
However, I'm opposed to a first round DE, and there's no way Williams will go that far. Good second pick with Cromartie, though I'm not sure he'll fall that far.
No way Eric Winston falls that far, and you're forgetting about good and young Adrian Jones. crazy.gif
After that, I really like what you have. You really covered team needs, though some are unrealistic, as you smartfully stated. crazy.gif


Well, I am against the thought of Bryan Thomas starting so that is why if we get the 12th overall selection I picked him, so maybe, we trade the 12th overall, and a 4th rounder to get higher in the draft, like around the 6, 7, or 8th pick area. Then the likleyness of us getting Williams will be far greater then getting him at the 12th overall selection.
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Feb 18 2006, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but are you gonna get guys like Mario Williams and Tamba what ever his name is get by the 3rd?


But by the 3rd round there won't be 29 DEs selected. In the 3rd we get probably the 10th or 15th ranked DE not 30th
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Feb 18 2006, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but are you gonna get guys like Mario Williams and Tamba what ever his name is get by the 3rd?

Dude, I said get the 4-7th ranked DEs who'd be more likley available, like Elvis Dummervile or Ray Edwards. I never said Mario Williams or Tamba Hali or Mathias Kiwanuka.
But JC, I see what you mean, and not to mention you really covered our needs in free agency really well so there wasn't much of an option. crazy.gif beach.gif
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 06:04 PM

ray edwards could be a late day 1 steal

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 06:17 PM

The draft is on April 29-30 on ESPN right?
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (Chadforpresidentin08 @ Feb 18 2006, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not bad, maybe you could get more specific in rounds 4-6 crazy.gif but not bad at all.
And JerseyJet, besides biasim, why would you take the 30th ranked DE with an early 3rd? 29 DEs aren't taken earlier than that. Maybe look at the 4-7 ranked DEs.


I couldn't think of what to pick between 4-6. I'm trying to think of what we could use that couldn't filled with Free Agents. I don't think we should draft a QB because there isn't much outside the top 3 and Ferguson is much more important in my eyes than Cutler.
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 01:06 AM




D`Brickshaw Ferguson 6"5 295

Strengths: extremley rare athlete for his position, played FB and LB in highschool. very agile and quick unlike many tackles. very high IQ to the game. with his big frame he is amazing in pass protection and run game.
Weaknesses:Only weakness is that he played to soft at times last season but he showed his killer instict this past season.
Comparion: John Odgen/Orlando Pace
Notes: if he were to come out last year he could have gone top 5. guys like him dont come out every year and is rare breed of his own.

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ Feb 18 2006, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I couldn't think of what to pick between 4-6. I'm trying to think of what we could use that couldn't filled with Free Agents. I don't think we should draft a QB because there isn't much outside the top 3 and Ferguson is much more important in my eyes than Cutler.

Get some offensive line depth, some linebacker depth, and just some other random position, maybe wide receiver.
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 08:56 AM

Pennington's Gone see ya later bubye !!! ether way he takes up cap space and doen't play. They should try and trade hime and cover part of his salary. say a sixth rounder and the Jets cover most of his salary. Brady was drafted in the sixth. Trade Abe to the Raiders for their first. then trade that pick for multi picks and draft D'Brick. Get a RB and a WR in the later rounds then Sign Brees as a UFA

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 09:13 AM

QUOTE (JCBizkit87 @ Feb 18 2006, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be happy with this offseason, but the likelyness of it, means it wont happen.

Cuts:
Jason Fabini
Jareld Sowell
Ty Law
Jay Feidler

Restructure:
Curtis Martin
Chad Pennington (higher the price a little)
DeWayne Robertson
Shaun Ellis
Kevin Mawae (try to restrcure his contract)
Pete Kendall

Trade:
John Abraham for 12th overall pick (what can I say I like your ideas)
Justin McCariens for 3rd rounder (what can I say I like your ideas)
try to do a sign and trade w/ Law before, but ended up cutting him.

Free Agency:
QB Kerry Collins
HB DeShaun Foster
WR David Givens

Draft:
1st round - LT D'Brickshaw Ferguson
1st round (John Abraham) - DE Mario Williams
2nd round - CB Antonio Cromartie
3rd round (Justin McCariens) - OT Eric Winston
3rd round - DT Rodrique White
4th round - C Mike Degory
4th round (Herm) - CB/KR/PR Devin Hester
5th round - FB Garrett Mills
6th round - Best Available
7th round - Best Available
7th round - Best Available

Depth Chart:
QB: Chad Pennington/Kerry Collins/Brooks Bollinger
HB: Curtis Martin/DeShaun Foster/Cedric Houston
WR: Coles/Givens/Cotchery
TE: Baker
LT: Ferguson
LG: Kendall
C: Mawae
RG: Moore
RT: Winston

defense
DE: Williams
DT: Robertson
DT: Wright
DE: Ellis
OLB: Barton
MLB: Vilma
OLB: Hobson
CB1: Barrett
CB2: Miller
CB3: Cromartie
Cb4: Strait
FS: Coleman
SS: Rhodes

K: Nugent
P: Graham

KR1: Devin Hester
KR2: Justin Miller
PR1: Devin Hester

I like the thought but Eric winston is a first rounder he isnt going 3rd. And mario williams wont go 12th he will be picked up bye the raiders who are trying to get some def players..

And also who said we are trading J-Mac i really think there is a like 0 percent chance of trading him he still got a Contract..
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 09:27 AM

Ok what i Think
we trade John Abe for the team with the lowest First round pick so ill pick the browns.
Resign
Chris Baker
Bryan Thomas
Cuts
Kevin mawae
Jason Fabini
Chad Pennington
Ty Law
Jay Fiedler
Restructures
Curtis Martin
Pete Kendell
FA
LaCharles Bentley
I only going to put the big impact pick up
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4th overall
Jay Cutler
12th overall
Eric Winston
2nd round
Gabe Watson
3rd round
anthony fasano
4th round
Devin Hester
5th round
jeramy Bloom
thats how high im going
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QB
Jay Cutler
Curtis Martin
Bj Askew
Coles J-Mac
Chris Baker
LT Eric Winston
LG Pete Kendell
C LaCharles Bentley
RG Brandon Moore
RT Adrian Jones

DE Bryon Thomas
NT Gabe Watson
DT Dwayne Robertson
DE shaun ellis
ROlB Eric Barton
MLB John Vilma
LOLB Victor Hobson
CB Justin miller
CB david Barret
SS kerry Rhodes
FS eric coleman
KOR Devin hester PR Devin Hester
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 09:59 AM

Okay I redid my draft (borrowing JCBizkit87 format)

1st round - OT - D'Brickshaw Ferguson
1st round - RB - LenDale White
2nd round - CB - Antonio Cromartie
3rd round - DT/NT Gabe Watson
3rd round - DE/OLB Stanley McClover
4th round - OG - Will Allen
4th round - C Patrick Ross
5th round - QB D.J. Shockley
6th round - TE Erik Gill
7th round - OG Jahri Evans
7th round - OT Terrance Pennington (no relationship to our QB)

Depth Chart:
QB: Philip Rivers/Brooks Bollinger or maybe Josh McCown/DJ Shockley
FB: BJ Askew
HB: LenDale White/Cedric Houston/Curtis Martin
WR: Coles/Cotchery/McCariens
TE: Baker/Gill
LT: Ferguson
LG: Will Allen
C: Mawae/Ross
RG: Moore/Evans
RT: Jones/Pennington

defense
DE: Thomas or Stanley McClover
DT: Robertson or Watson
DT/NT: Watson
DE: Ellis
OLB: Barton or McClover (if we move to a 3-4 I'd say move both McClovers to OLB)
ILB: Vilma
ILB2: Troy Evans maybe if we move to 3-4
OLB: Hobson or McClover
CB1: Cromartie
CB2: Miller
CB3: Strait
Cb4: Barrett
FS: Coleman
SS: Rhodes

K: Nugent
P: Graham

KR1: Justin Miller
KR2: Cromartie
PR1: Cromartie
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (theanalogkid @ Feb 19 2006, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay I redid my draft

1st round - OT - D'Brickshaw Ferguson
1st round - RB - LenDale White
2nd round - CB - Antonio Cromartie
3rd round - DT/NT Gabe Watson or DE/OLB Stanley McClover
4th round - OG - Will Allen
4th round - C Patrick Ross
5th round - QB D.J. Shockley
6th round - TE Erik Gill
7th round - OG Jahri Evans
7th round - OT Terrance Pennington (no relationship to our QB)

Depth Chart:
QB: Philip Rivers/Brooks Bollinger or maybe Josh McCown/DJ Shockley
HB: LenDale White/Cedric Houston/Curtis Martin
WR: Coles/Cotchery/McCariens
TE: Baker/Gill
LT: Ferguson
LG: Will Allen
C: Mawae/Ross
RG: Moore/Evans
RT: Jones/Pennington

defense
DE: Thomas or Stanley McClover
DT: Robertson or Watson
DT: Watson
DE: Ellis
OLB: Barton or McClover
MLB: Vilma
OLB: Hobson
CB1: Cromartie
CB2: Miller
CB3: Strait
Cb4: Barrett
FS: Coleman
SS: Rhodes

K: Nugent
P: Graham

KR1: Justin Miller
KR2: Cromartie
PR1: Cromartie


Well said, Kid. D.J. Shockleys the way to go!
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (JerseyJet @ Feb 19 2006, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well said, Kid. D.J. Shockleys the way to go!

shockley is crap we need a real QB if we are going to get a scrambler we minus well get Vince Young. But i Say the future QB should be Jay Cutler..
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