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azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Today, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
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Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
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Post icon  Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:18 AM

http://www.gamespot....ypress_e305.asx

Dude this thing looks SICK!!! I can't wait a whole year for this damn thing though....why???????????


Anyway check out some of these pics.

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The only thing that worries me is the fact that they have changed the controller. The current controller is amazingly ergonomic. Anyway, this is pretty cool stuff. Check out the link up top, they have some system specs on it. I wonder how this new processor "Cell" is gonna do. After all, they have IBM designing the system. I wonder how it will compete as well with XBox's 3 processors .... just like Microsoft to add so much power with the inability to use it! I hate MS and would never buy their product willingly.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:28 AM

yea that controller looks quite uncool and uncomfortable... but appearances are deceiving, eh, should be amazing to play madden on it
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:28 AM

I hate to tell u but I follow video games a lot and the xbox was way better then the PS2 ans the Xbox 2 ( I believe will be called the xenon) will be way better then the PS3. So is the quality of games as all the top developers became fascinated with the xboxs power and abilities and started making xbox only games or made for xbox games with a lesser port for the PS2.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:30 AM

The games are better on PS2 and XBox had alot of issues early on, but they had things the PS2 didn't have I will say that much ... but if you think the new PS3 is gonna be outperformed, think again!

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Sony also unveiled the PS3's graphics chip, the RSX "Reality Synthesizer," which is based on Nvidia technology. The GPU will be capable of 128bit pixel precision and 1080p resolution--some of the highest HD resolution around. The RSX also has 512MB of graphics render memory and is capable of 100 billion shader operations and 51 billion dot products per second. It also has more than 300 million transistors, larger than any processor commercially available today. It will be manufactured using the 90nm process, with eight layers of metal. The RSX is more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra video cards, which would cost roughly $1,000 total if purchased today.

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:35 AM

The system itself looks cool but the controller looks outdated
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:38 AM

I've pretty much given up on video games, but the XBox was a huge disappointment. When it first came out I thought it was going to be great. It had the better hardware by far. But they never put out any games other than the Halos that lived up to the hype of the system. Almost every game I bought for the system was multi-platform.

On the other hand, so may games are put out for the Playstation that it just has more good games.

Still nothing beats Gamecube. Better controller (that's right, I said it), better games, and after the Resident Evils I will say that it's graphics could almost be on par with the XBox.

Oh, and I think the new PS and the new XBox look almost the same. I bet it makes the parent companies happy.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:40 AM

Some of those things are not gonna be in the system I hate to tell you. The fact is nobody is gonna buy a 1000 dollar system. Sony will have to drop a lot of it. Also if you get passed the speed of the processor and wireless bells and whistles your left with basically only a slightly better xbox. The shading and bump mapping as well as HD 1080p and progressive scanning is something that is already on the original xbox. I admit the xbox did have some bugs but its still a way better system. I’m not being partial in anyway. I own all 3 (xbox, gamecube, and PS2) and the PS2 is the worst system but the gamecube has the worst games. Xbox is the bets system and has the best games. Halo1 and 2 both won game of the year fable and jade empire are the 2 best role playing games out there. Project gotham is the best racing game. PS2 doesn’t have much. I can’t honestly remember the last time I bought a game for it.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:43 AM

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Also if you get passed the speed of the processor and wireless bells and whistles your left with basically only a slightly better xbox.


lol, i am sure you didnt mean to say that, but you just admitted the ps3 is gonna be slighlty better than the xbox (and its past not passed)... not to mentin that its better according to you even after you get past all the bells and whistles... :rofl:
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:44 AM

Early on the xbox didn’t have much because a lot of the companies didn’t know how to use it or its full capabilities except for bungie and team ninja. DOA3 graphics are unparalleled still, ninja gaiden was also an amazing game. And DOA ultimate is the best fighting game. Also the xbox live is amazing. Way better then the extra 150 dollars needed to play the PS2 online with slow dial up users giving lag and the price per game factor.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:48 AM

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lol, i am sure you didnt mean to say that, but you just admitted the ps3 is gonna be slighlty better than the xbox (and its past not passed)... not to mentin that its better according to you even after you get past all the bells and whistles...  :rofl:



I mean slightly better then the original xbox as it should be considering its coming out 5 years later and been in devolpent for like 6 or 7 and the xbox spent a short time in devolpment. It won’t even compare to the new Xbox360 or xenon whatever its gonna be called. Just like the PS2 doesn’t compare to the xbox
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:51 AM

Yeah you should read about these teraflops and all this gubergeek arguing on this one site I am reading...it's hillarious. All I know is HALO BLOWS! What a wanna be rip off of Half-Life! If you wanna play a serious shooter game, the original CounterStrike kills all forms of Halo and I haven't even gotten a chance to play the new CounterStrike but Halo2 is SICK!

I hate Halo because I have played far more sophisticated games as far as shooters are concerned. However, it is very cool that the XBox had the capability to network itself and is the only reason people like Halo. It's fun to get 16 guys in a house and network all the XBoxes and go at it 4 teams of 4. However, the XBox came out a year after PS2. Now the PS3 has all the capabilities and more of the XBox 360, alot more if you read some of these specs. I just can't wait, MS sucks! All they do is wait for something to come out and then copy it which is why they will never be any good. 0 innovation! PS3 is gonna be sick with the Cell. And those prices of Graphics cards are based on current retail prices. The card in their is a single card that sony creates. So you can't say that it is gonna cost 1000 dollars, that's just what 2 6800's cost.
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Some of those things are not gonna be in the system I hate to tell you. The fact is nobody is gonna buy a 1000 dollar system. Sony will have to drop a lot of it. Also if you get passed the speed of the processor and wireless bells and whistles your left with basically only a slightly better xbox. The shading and bump mapping as well as HD 1080p and progressive scanning is something that is already on the original xbox. I admit the xbox did have some bugs but its still a way better system. I’m not being partial in anyway. I own all 3 (xbox, gamecube, and PS2) and the PS2 is the worst system but the gamecube has the worst games. Xbox is the bets system and has the best games. Halo1 and 2 both won game of the year fable and jade empire are the 2 best role playing games out there. Project gotham is the best racing game. PS2 doesn’t have much. I can’t honestly remember the last time I bought a game for it.


Fable is the worst, I repeat WORST, roleplaying game out there. I beat that game in under 8 hours BOTH times I played it, and that was goofing around. As a mage I could have beaten that game in under FIVE hours if I had wanted to. There is nothing to do once you beat the game. The developers admit there is a bunch of junk they tried to put in the game but couldn't. Just look around, deadends abound. That game was a failure and a half and never should have been released. It is also one of the most linear games I have ever played. Being good or bad doesn't make any real difference. People run away from you if you are evil, big deal. It doesn't affect the straight along path that the game takes one bit. The whole getting married thing is a joke, as is renting homes or shops. The whole game is one ill-conceived piece of junk that should have been scrapped long before it got to store shelves.

Morrowind is three or four times the game Fable is and wasn't even a great game.

Halo and Halo 2 are the ONLY "great" games on the XBox. Nothing else comes close.

Compare that to:

Wind Waker
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the Resident Evil remakes
Mario Sunshine
the list goes on and on, Nintendo is THE best production company out there and they destroy everyone else when it comes to developing games.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:57 AM

The graphics company Is making the chips for all 3 new systems. An early spec side by side comparison was in a magazine and the side by side comparison favored the new xbox (at the time called xbox next). Also the deal struck with the company gave the xbox the right to better graphics. Kinda like the deal the killed NFL 2k5 microsoft payed a lot of money to make sure they had the best machine. I’m sure you can google search it. I’m too bust working, making avatars, and posting to do it myself
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:13 AM

You got to be joking. The only knock on fable was it was short. I beat it in like 10 hours or so myself. Yes morrowind had a lot more to do but got to a points after like 30 hours where I grew tired of the game despite my character beaing all mighty. I know people who went upwards of level 70 on that game. Anyway yes morrowind was a great game too but isn’t it xbox and PC only? Jade empire is the best role playing game of all time! Period. I’m still playing it. I’m like 20 hours in and still have a lot to do. The storyline is amazing so is the character interactment and character devolpment. The fighting takes skill and mind power to fully understand and the switching of styles and harmonic combos plus followers helping make it all the better. Here is just a list of games here

Ninja gaiden (best action game out there-amazing graphics)
Jade empire (best role playing game)
DOA ultimate (best fighting game)
Project gotham 2 (best racing game)
Halo 2 (I don’t like it personally. Not a big fan of FPS but was game of the year 2004)
Splinter cell (all 3 the xbox version has way better graphics and some extra levels and downloadable
content)
Blinx (best platformer)-also voodoo vince and pschyonauts (great platformers too)
DOA volleyball (great graphics fun game RPG elements)

Just to name a few.

The gamecube new resident evil looks great (I haven’t tried it yet) but all the other ones sucked. I stopped buying them after I beat resident evil 0 in a weekend. I beat every one for 1-2-3 then the PS2 first one (forgot the name of it) then 0. its too much of the same old stuff. Silent hill is a better survival horrer game now. So was the suffering. I don’t like the metroids as stated above I’m not big on FPSs wind walker sucked and was a huge disappointment. No matter what they do they won’t be able to recreate the magic of nintendos the legend of Zelda. Nintendo is too causght up trying to use games of the past instead of new developments. Eternal darkness was a huge bust also. Nintendo is not the best production company at all. The only game I play on the gamecube is Mario party. Those are fun games to play with 4 people. Its good old school like gameplay. Although I will try the new resident evil in time. I’m too addicted to jade empire and I must finish it before madden comes out. I don’t have the time I used to to play games anymore. When you don’t have the money u can’t buy them but when u do u work so much u can barely play them. It’s a vicious cycle
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:24 AM

Ninja Gaiden was so overrated. After I killed my 50th idnetical ninja, I got a little bored walking down the exact same looking street over and over again.

And I just knocked the hell out of Fable. I'll do it again.

There is nothing to do in that game. No roleplaying game that takes less than twenty hours can be called great. Morrowind was great because of all the weird things out there to find and do. Little temples with funny books, strange charcters off on islands in the middle of no where, etc. I played with half a dozen charcters for over a couple hundred hours each and still never did everything. And unlike Fable, you're charcters could actually look different. Fable they all looked the same because it was always better to have heavier armor (Morrowind you can get away with wearing any type of armor), there were only a few types of weapons, etc.

F that game.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:26 AM

PS has the best games in my opinion. Before I owned a PS I was Nintendo all the way, however I am not purchasing 3 different consoles and I know PS has the best for me. They have the games I love, like Tony Hawk, easily one of the best games ever made. Plus Madden/NCDub plays the best on PS. Plus I absolutely despise MS and their copy cat MO. Bunch of suckers.

PS has the best reputation as of stability, but I will always love Nintendo. I hope that Revolution is as sick as it is hyped! I might get it.

Also I was not impressed with alot of the games that came out recently. I beat most of all the games I get in 8 hours or less on the hardest mode. Command and Conquer will probably be the best game ever made .. just a plug for my fav strategy game.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:31 AM

Fable was revolutionary in a lot of fashions. One was the fighting style (which jade empire kina uses but perfected it) another was the ability to easily change from good or bad whenever you wanted to. Most games you have to go through a lot of crap to be good or bad but in fable all you have to do is change your mind and get a haircut. After you beat it you can continue playing but there is not much to do admittedly. U can finish unbeaten quests and walk around get married etc. marriage is big because u can turn evil by beating your wife or treat her good an she gives u weopens as presents. Once again the knock on it is the length but I still can’t think of a better one out there besides jade empire. Maybe the new star wars one is but I haven’t tried it. I’m not into star wars so I probably wouldn’t understand it much. Its still way better then the final fantasies which by the way xbox has too now
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:39 AM

Try beating ninja gaiden or jade empire in that amount of time and you wont. Its impossible. How could you not like ninja gaiden unless u don’t like that genre of games. It takes a lot of skill to beat that game. Its probably by far the toughest game out there
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Fable was revolutionary in a lot of fashions. One was the fighting style (which jade empire kina uses but perfected it) another was the ability to easily change from good or bad whenever you wanted to. Most games you have to go through a lot of crap to be good or bad but in fable all you have to do is change your mind and get a haircut. After you beat it you can continue playing but there is not much to do admittedly. U can finish unbeaten quests and walk around get married etc. marriage is big because u can turn evil by beating your wife or treat her good an she gives u weopens as presents. Once again the knock on it is the length but I still can’t think of a better one out there besides jade empire. Maybe the new star wars one is but I haven’t tried it. I’m not into star wars so I probably wouldn’t understand it much. Its still way better then the final fantasies which by the way xbox has too now


If you think Fable is better than any Final Fantasy than, I mean this as polietly as I can, you know zilch about Role Playing games. Talk about revolutionary? Every FF has changed the landscape of RPGs. FFs 4, 6, and 9 are some of the greatest games ever made.

Changing from good to bad at the drop of a hat isn't changing anything, you could do that in Morrowind (along with many other games) by walking up can killing three or four people. The fighting style in Fable is a simple lock-on, button mashing combo style that has been done numerous times before. Marriage is cute, but not worth the effort. In a game that takes less than 8-10 hours to beat, why would I bother visiting my wife enough times to get a decent item from her?
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (Jetsfan115 @ May 17 2005, 11:14 AM)
Try beating ninja gaiden or jade empire in that amount of time and you wont. Its impossible. How could you not like ninja gaiden unless u don’t like that genre of games. It takes a lot of skill to beat that game. Its probably by far the toughest game out there


I don't love that genre, but mostly I don't like fighting the same four ninjas over and over and over again. I quit shortly after the second or third level because all that happened was an endless string of the same enemies jumping out at me.
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