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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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I'm Am Now 100% Sold On Cutler he's the Jets knight in shining armor

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Post icon  Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:11 AM

Forget you guy's and saying that Cutler is a hype machine. This guy truly is an amazing athlete. I watched the combine all day on Sunday sometime's seeing the same event twice and Jay Cutler is the TRUTH. He threw alot of balls and hardly missed and the WR's were saying "You better have your head on a swivle because the ball get's on you in a hurry". The guy made every throw with ease, his *beep*y arrogant attitude and sure of himself ability. He also took part in the 225lbs bench in which he benched 225lbs 25 times, that was what one of the top rated interior offensive lineman was pushing at best. (are you kidding me!), not to mention his 40 time was good. He took part in every drill and dominated in every aspect. Ball placement to velocity he had it. Another thing that stands out to me is on a large percentage of his throws playing for Vandy are with him getting popped in the mouth and making "thread the needle" type of throw's and for all you hater's who doubt this mans ability are in for a rude awakening. If you thought the Jay "cut's" stock couldn't get any better. Right now it's sky-rocketing. At 6'3 210 plus he's a big,stong "gerthy" guy who in my opinion is the exact opposite of Penninton. If you want a Q.B that can weather the storm the only top flight Q.B that can is Cutler. I seriously can't say enough about this guy when his only hang-up's are mehanics and decision making is a far cry from any true weakness. In my eye's as well as many other scout's,G.M's,coaches he is the best Q.B in the draft hands down.

Before this week we were saying that taking him at 4 was insane and even I thought so but right now we might have to trade up to get him. He's that good.

Sorry to make another thread on Cutler and you don't have to respond to it just read it and take it into consideration.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:18 AM

While I do agree with you on how good Cutler is, for future reference, when trying to convince people of how god he is...don't say his only downfall is mechanics and decision-making. Those are two of the most important things in a QB making the transition from college to the NFL. A guy can get by on talent alone in college (Vince Young), but they have to get the job down to a science in order to be able to do it in the pro's.

Decision-making is the most crucial element to a QB...so I would just leave that little tid bit out when defending Cutler...
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE (HurricaneJet32 @ Feb 27 2006, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While I do agree with you on how good Cutler is, for future reference, when trying to convince people of how god he is...don't say his only downfall is mechanics and decision-making. Those are two of the most important things in a QB making the transition from college to the NFL. A guy can get by on talent alone in college (Vince Young), but they have to get the job down to a science in order to be able to do it in the pro's.

Decision-making is the most crucial element to a QB...so I would just leave that little tid bit out when defending Cutler...


Well like I've said before you have to weigh in the variables. When you are playing for team with a serious lack of talent you are going to push the envelope alittle. He's making some crazy throw's sometimes because he's behind in a game or they need some production. Also I'm not going to make Cutler look like god, I am going to be throwing in all the variable's wether they are bad or good. I'm am evaluating talant and I'm not going to make a guy seem flawless. Every player has issue's and those are his only 2 and I guess only 1 really just for the simple fact mechanic's can be fixed overnight depending on the player's learning curve.

Mechanic's can be cleaned up and I'm sorry but when players get to the next level they are getting the best training possible in the football world and mechanic's going into the combine and draft are NOT that important because mechaical issue's can be fixed and buffed in no time.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:40 AM

He's a good athlete. But his footwork is horrible. Most of his INTs are due to not setting up correctly to throw the ball. Falling back and throwing the ball. How will he react to the speed rushers in the NFL. Throwing on your back foot will result in INTs. DBs are too quick in the NFL not key on that mistake.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:45 AM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Feb 27 2006, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's a good athlete. But his footwork is horrible. Most of his INTs are due to not setting up correctly to throw the ball. Falling back and throwing the ball. How will he react to the speed rushers in the NFL. Throwing on your back foot will result in INTs. DBs are too quick in the NFL not key on that mistake.


I feel you dawg but you have to take into consideration that footwork and fundementals are going to be treated at the next level. I also heard Mayock say that he's working on them with a pro trainer as we speak. I'm not worried about foot work and technique if anything I'm worried about his decision making and hopefully he has just cause for those mistakes.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:50 AM

Footwork can allways be worked on.. he is the Best QB in the draft.. I have not seen Lienart or Young do anything yet to impress me
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:52 AM

QUOTE (Vilma#51 @ Feb 27 2006, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Footwork can allways be worked on.. he is the Best QB in the draft.. I have not seen Lienart or Young do anything yet to impress me


Young and Leinart are going to perform on their pro days in front of league. They aren't in physical drills or skill drills.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:53 AM

im a 100% sold that if the jets take culter over vince young they r the stupidest team in the league.

has any1 forgot what he did in the rose bowl he kind of took the long horns on his back and won that game.he can run and pass.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:27 AM

Mike Vick could run and pass in college extremely well, don't forget that.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:30 AM

The last guy to shoot up the draft boards to the top 5 out of nowhere, being a combine wonder with a short resume was DeWayne Robertson. How's that worked out with the Jets?
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:32 AM

Does any1 remember a guy named Joe Namath .... If I recall correctly he threw of of his back fo0t too... not saying hes namath but u cant bitch about it cuase the jets greatest did it too... Brett Favre throws off his back foot and the velocity this kidd throws with does compare to elway and favre... But hes still a gamble and in my eyes its a gamble we need to take if leinart and young are gone....
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Coleman26 @ Feb 27 2006, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does any1 remember a guy named Joe Namath .... If I recall correctly he threw of of his back fo0t too... not saying hes namath but u cant bitch about it cuase the jets greatest did it too... Brett Favre throws off his back foot and the velocity this kidd throws with does compare to elway and favre... But hes still a gamble and in my eyes its a gamble we need to take if leinart and young are gone....


The back foot is not the biggest issue, it's the propensity to make bad reads and force the ball. What also troubles me is that QBs on bad college teams like Steve McNair and Eli Manning for example, put up big numbers but somehow Cutler is given a slide. He should have been putting up Kobe-esque numbers but he wasn't. That raises a flag for me.

Leinart had the best response to a question on Cutler. Leinart said, "I've been a winner my whole career. That's the most important thing. I just win."
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The back foot is not the biggest issue, it's the propensity to make bad reads and force the ball. What also troubles me is that QBs on bad college teams like Steve McNair and Eli Manning for example, put up big numbers but somehow Cutler is given a slide. He should have been putting up Kobe-esque numbers but he wasn't. That raises a flag for me.

Leinart had the best response to a question on Cutler. Leinart said, "I've been a winner my whole career. That's the most important thing. I just win."

yeah I agree with you 1oo% but if leinarts gone we have to take a chance on him in my eyes...
It would be a chance drafting d'brick becuase its been seen before that a great o-linemen is taking and becuase he never has nothing to play for (being that his qb sucks) he never lives up to his reputation... No matter what we should get a qb in the 1st round either leinart young or if it has to be then cutler... But i think the best thing to do would be to trade up to the #1 from the texans abraham and this years 3rd next years 1st ....draft bush and w/e of the three quarterbacks is left
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:57 AM

QUOTE (Coleman26 @ Feb 27 2006, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah I agree with you 1oo% but if leinarts gone we have to take a chance on him in my eyes...
It would be a chance drafting d'brick becuase its been seen before that a great o-linemen is taking and becuase he never has nothing to play for (being that his qb sucks) he never lives up to his reputation... No matter what we should get a qb in the 1st round either leinart young or if it has to be then cutler... But i think the best thing to do would be to trade up to the #1 from the texans abraham and this years 3rd next years 1st ....draft bush and w/e of the three quarterbacks is left


I see what you're saying. But if Leinart's gone and D'Brick and Cutler are sitting there at 4 with the Jets on the clock, the pick, in my mind, has to be D'Brick. It just has to be. The guy has faults, as all prospects do, but he's been stellar for his career, was impressive during Senior Bowl week and has made a good showing at the combines. Lock up the left side for 10 to 12 years (that's what happens when you draft a franchise LT). Franchise LTs are Canton bound; that's just the way the system works. Franchise QBs, on the otherhand, are not necessarily HOFers.

In the end, the Jets 1st round pick has to be a perrennial pro-bowl caliber player, whomever it is, or else this team will be in bad shape for 5 + years.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:06 AM

this is from an artical this morning. Mon,Feb 27


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Everyone seems to love the 6-3, 226-pound Cutler's arm and talent, but the knock on him is that he played for a losing program. He was a four-year starter, but the Commodores went 11-35 over that span. He was the SEC Offensive Player of the Year as a senior, throwing for 3,073 yards and 21 touchdowns, but his team went 5-6.

Even Leinart, while mostly praising Cutler, couldn't help but note what he called the biggest difference between the two.

"I've been a winner my whole career," Leinart said. "That's the most important thing. I just win."

"I got it done without a lot of guys around me," Cutler countered. "Nothing against those guys, I love them to death, but I didn't have All-Americans scattered across the field and I had to adjust, I had to deal with pressure. So I think it is going to help me going to the next level, dealing with adversity and being able to succeed through it."

Cutler, the only one of the top three quarterbacks to work out at the combine, enjoyed his biggest success last season, leading Vandy to a 4-0 start before a six-game slide. During that skid, though, he threw for 339 yards in a 35-28 loss at South Carolina, 361 yards and four touchdowns in a 49-42 overtime loss at Florida, and 395 yards and five touchdowns in a 48-43 loss to Kentucky.

But he really grabbed the spotlight in his career finale, when he completed 27 of 39 passes for 315 yards and three touchdowns in a 28-24 victory at Tennessee

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 11:53 AM

Bret Favre threw off his back foot and been picked off a lot because of that. Namath too. Cutller does it more. Cutler is no Favre.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:22 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Feb 27 2006, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bret Favre threw off his back foot and been picked off a lot because of that. Namath too. Cutller does it more. Cutler is no Favre.


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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (reg83ny @ Feb 27 2006, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bret Favre threw off his back foot and been picked off a lot because of that. Namath too. Cutller does it more. Cutler is no Favre.



Totally agree. I laugh when i hear that from many scouts
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:13 PM

Do people actually prefer Cutler to Leinart, I guess so.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:35 PM

It’s the same reason why eli threw so many INTs his first year then his second year he fixed his mechanics and did better. Cutler has all the natural talent he just needs good coaching to have the right mechanics. Luckily mechanics and decision making can be improved. This is where I wish we had Hackett as a QB coach. He did a great job with chad and simms
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