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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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I'm Am Now 100% Sold On Cutler he's the Jets knight in shining armor

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The back foot is not the biggest issue, it's the propensity to make bad reads and force the ball. What also troubles me is that QBs on bad college teams like Steve McNair and Eli Manning for example, put up big numbers but somehow Cutler is given a slide. He should have been putting up Kobe-esque numbers but he wasn't. That raises a flag for me.

Leinart had the best response to a question on Cutler. Leinart said, "I've been a winner my whole career. That's the most important thing. I just win."


He's not putting u Kobe-esque numbers because he was playing with a bad team...but he wasn't playing against bad teams...he was playing against some of the best teams in college football! So the numbers he put up are pretty incredible considering the circumstances...
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:48 PM

I think Cutler's cons can be coached. We have a OC that turned Brees into something, so I'm comfortable with him being able to coach him too.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Feb 27 2006, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I feel you dawg but you have to take into consideration that footwork and fundementals are going to be treated at the next level.


Actually, fundementals are just that...fundementals. You have them or you don't. And what you have is honed at the COLLEGE level. The NFL is not there to teach fundementals. You should have them by the time you get there. They may be tweaked, but you have to have them.

That's like saying "oh, they'll teach you writing fundementals in college". Of course they don't. That's something you learn on a lower level. When you get up to a certain level you are EXPECTED to know certain things. If you don't you will never succeed.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:15 PM

He is apparently showing off some nice ability at the combine, and that is just what he needs to do after the hype that was put out about him before. People need to appreciate the fact that you have to prove yourself to earn a top ten pick. Cutler is finally starting to exhibit the ability that people claimed he would, which doesn't change the hype from before.

Still, I don't like questions about decision making. Decision making is what being a QB is about. The only QB I turst with the ball who makes poor ones is Favre and that is only because he has proven he can make several mistakes and win.

I am still against drafting him at #4.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:16 PM

the only player im sold on this draft is dbrickashaw ferguson

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (JetSon @ Feb 27 2006, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do people actually prefer Cutler to Leinart, I guess so.


Some do and some don't. I think the main problem is his arm strength. Has adequate arm strength from what I am hearing and read. Plus he had surgery on his arm before the 05' NCAA football season and missed his sophmore season because of his rotator cuff so he might have a problem with durability. Too most people he reminds them of pennington, just pennington wasn't a winner in college like he was. But after all winning is the most important thing. IMO I think Leinart will be a good-great QB if he stays healthy.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:30 PM

wow.. with my back injuries having limited me, it kinda hurts me to know that nfl prospects are throwing up 225 only 25 times or so, when at 17, I was doing nearly 20 reps myself. I wont say I was as talented as some of these guys are.. but my strength was definitely up there. i'll be lucky if i can put up 225 10 times today.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:31 PM

lol i cant even bench 200

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Feb 27 2006, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still, I don't like questions about decision making. Decision making is what being a QB is about. The only QB I turst with the ball who makes poor ones is Favre and that is only because he has proven he can make several mistakes and win.

I am still against drafting him at #4.


I agree with you completely... but say for instance we get another good pick out of an Abraham deal, do we really want to run the risk of not grabbing up Cutler before he's taken off the board?
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Feb 27 2006, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He is apparently showing off some nice ability at the combine, and that is just what he needs to do after the hype that was put out about him before. People need to appreciate the fact that you have to prove yourself to earn a top ten pick. Cutler is finally starting to exhibit the ability that people claimed he would, which doesn't change the hype from before.

Still, I don't like questions about decision making. Decision making is what being a QB is about. The only QB I turst with the ball who makes poor ones is Favre and that is only because he has proven he can make several mistakes and win.

I am still against drafting him at #4.


Agreed. My question to everyone who is in love with Cutler is this: what is the Jets' answer to the gaping hole at LT? Adrian Jones is a serviceable RT at best. It seems like the Jets have some real viable choices at QB (Chad, Shaub, Rivers, Ramsey, etc.) but they don't have one at the premier position of LT. Their only real option is D'Brick who, by all indications, should be sitting there at 4.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Amen @ Feb 27 2006, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with you completely... but say for instance we get another good pick out of an Abraham deal, do we really want to run the risk of not grabbing up Cutler before he's taken off the board?


That's what I'm saying, and isn't Winston supposedly just as good as D'Brick? I know Bradway had interest in him when the Senior Bowl was in session and that was probably because he fell in love with Cutler.

By the way, we all know that INT's can happen because of WR-QB communication. Vandy has at best so-so receivers. I think we can attribute some of those INT's to them but I'm sure alot of those came from a guy trying desperately to carry his team and forcing it in there. It's a noble characteristic and for Cutler it happend to be true. Most times it worked... and a handful of times it bit him in the ass.

Though, I love Leinart as a prospect his recent elbow injury as well as his shoulder sugery scare me off a little bit. Let's just say I'm Chad-shocked and I want a completely healthy shoulder with a bang to it. I have a feeling Cutler's decision making skills will get better anyway. I just can't see how Cutler makes it past Oakland and even if he did there's a few other teams that I think would be happy to grab him up. I mean he is putting on display why people are talking up his game so much. And it's getting to the point that after Vince posted bad wonderlick scores that Tennessee is ready to draft Cutler. Chow supposedly doesn't want to center his offense around Vince. The scary thing is Chow and Fisher have nothing but love for Cutler and got to coach him all week. That's the scary part.

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed. My question to everyone who is in love with Cutler is this: what is the Jets' answer to the gaping hole at LT? Adrian Jones is a serviceable RT at best. It seems like the Jets have some real viable choices at QB (Chad, Shaub, Rivers, Ramsey, etc.) but they don't have one at the premier position of LT. Their only real option is D'Brick who, by all indications, should be sitting there at 4.


There's no way you can honestly say you think that Ramsey or even unproven Rivers who has questionable arm strength are "real viable" options. Schaub I can see as a good replacement, but the latter two aren't anymore of an improvement at the QB position as Jones is serviceable at LT, which I disagree with. I think Jones played well and I think he'll play even better. Honestly, I think it's time the Jets made a splash with their team and drafting a lineman isn't exactly over-hauling or blowing up the offense. All that's doing is filling a hole when the biggest hole in my opinion is at the QB position. I know all of the benefits of drafting D'Brick, but I still think it's just as big a risk as taking Cutler and plus I think Winston would be just as good and he'd be available around the pick that we'd get for trading Abe.

I can't help to think though that the Jets might trade up to number 1 and take Bush though. That'd be sweet.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (penningtonpays @ Feb 27 2006, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lol i cant even bench 200


Not as bad as me. Ive just done some lifting and maxed at 120lbs having lifted it 10 times
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Feb 27 2006, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
... and plus I think Winston would be just as good and he'd be available around the pick that we'd get for trading Abe.


Ah the rub. We don't have that pick right now. I might rather have Cutler and the second best LT in the draft than Ferguson and the fourth best QB, but untill Abe is traded and we know the concrete of the return, I'm not going to assume anything. (of course, a late first isn't crazy like the idea of getting Oakland's pick, but that is another deal).
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (jets0n @ Feb 27 2006, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's no way you can honestly say you think that Ramsey or even unproven Rivers who has questionable arm strength are "real viable" options. Schaub I can see as a good replacement, but the latter two aren't anymore of an improvement at the QB position as Jones is serviceable at LT, which I disagree with. I think Jones played well and I think he'll play even better. Honestly, I think it's time the Jets made a splash with their team and drafting a lineman isn't exactly over-hauling or blowing up the offense. All that's doing is filling a hole when the biggest hole in my opinion is at the QB position. I know all of the benefits of drafting D'Brick, but I still think it's just as big a risk as taking Cutler and plus I think Winston would be just as good and he'd be available around the pick that we'd get for trading Abe.

I can't help to think though that the Jets might trade up to number 1 and take Bush though. That'd be sweet.


I may have not made myself clear here. By "viable" option I mean a serviceable QB. I certainly don't think that Ramsey or Rivers are "franchise" QBs. The only franchise QBs in my mind are a 100% healthy Chad and Leinart. Cutler & Young are still enigmas, as is Rivers. But D'Brick is a franchise LT, but Jones will never be. The two biggest holes on the Jets are QB & LT and as I said, there is no other option at LT at the level of talent as D'Brick. Now, taking Cutler and Winston Justice (with the Abe pick) is not something I'm averse to, but Justice, although as a RT he protected Leinart's blind side, would still have to get aclimated to the switch to LT which D'Brick would not have to do.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (a1elbow @ Feb 27 2006, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah the rub. We don't have that pick right now. I might rather have Cutler and the second best LT in the draft than Ferguson and the fourth best QB, but untill Abe is traded and we know the concrete of the return, I'm not going to assume anything. (of course, a late first isn't crazy like the idea of getting Oakland's pick, but that is another deal).



QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I may have not made myself clear here. By "viable" option I mean a serviceable QB. I certainly don't think that Ramsey or Rivers are "franchise" QBs. The only franchise QBs in my mind are a 100% healthy Chad and Leinart. Cutler & Young are still enigmas, as is Rivers. But D'Brick is a franchise LT, but Jones will never be. The two biggest holes on the Jets are QB & LT and as I said, there is no other option at LT at the level of talent as D'Brick. Now, taking Cutler and Winston Justice (with the Abe pick) is not something I'm averse to, but Justice, although as a RT he protected Leinart's blind side, would still have to get aclimated to the switch to LT which D'Brick would not have to do.



Agreed and understood on both posts. However, SMC I don't think I would crosstrain Winston Justice to LT. I think I would keep him at RT and leave Jones where he's at, but that's because I think Jones will be able to hold his own. Time will tell and it may not be telling us anything until Houston is on the clock. I'm thinking that the Jets are gonna wait till they pick to assess Abes value and how he is gonna fit into their scheme of things. Although, I would like to see the Jets trade for an additional 1st round pick before the draft.

The fun of it all is there are so many holes and only a few realistic options to attain replacements through the draft. It comes down to philosophy. Really we'll have a clearer picture after the free agency.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (sdubb6 @ Feb 27 2006, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Forget you guy's and saying that Cutler is a hype machine. This guy truly is an amazing athlete. I watched the combine all day on Sunday sometime's seeing the same event twice and Jay Cutler is the TRUTH. He threw alot of balls and hardly missed and the WR's were saying "You better have your head on a swivle because the ball get's on you in a hurry". The guy made every throw with ease, his *beep*y arrogant attitude and sure of himself ability. He also took part in the 225lbs bench in which he benched 225lbs 25 times, that was what one of the top rated interior offensive lineman was pushing at best. (are you kidding me!), not to mention his 40 time was good. He took part in every drill and dominated in every aspect. Ball placement to velocity he had it. Another thing that stands out to me is on a large percentage of his throws playing for Vandy are with him getting popped in the mouth and making "thread the needle" type of throw's and for all you hater's who doubt this mans ability are in for a rude awakening. If you thought the Jay "cut's" stock couldn't get any better. Right now it's sky-rocketing. At 6'3 210 plus he's a big,stong "gerthy" guy who in my opinion is the exact opposite of Penninton. If you want a Q.B that can weather the storm the only top flight Q.B that can is Cutler. I seriously can't say enough about this guy when his only hang-up's are mehanics and decision making is a far cry from any true weakness. In my eye's as well as many other scout's,G.M's,coaches he is the best Q.B in the draft hands down.

Before this week we were saying that taking him at 4 was insane and even I thought so but right now we might have to trade up to get him. He's that good.

Sorry to make another thread on Cutler and you don't have to respond to it just read it and take it into consideration.

Thanx.

calm down there cowboy. dont go brokeback about this guy. hes not a bargain at the 4th pick. hes a 2nd or 3rd rounder. does he know what it is like to win? can he handle the nfl the most paid attention to league in the northwestern hemisphere? he played in vanderbilt first of all. sure they made progress with him but he has this negative aura about him that he is destined to fail. and i think we all know u were gaga about jay way before this post.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE (SMC @ Feb 27 2006, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The back foot is not the biggest issue, it's the propensity to make bad reads and force the ball. What also troubles me is that QBs on bad college teams like Steve McNair and Eli Manning for example, put up big numbers but somehow Cutler is given a slide. He should have been putting up Kobe-esque numbers but he wasn't. That raises a flag for me.

Leinart had the best response to a question on Cutler. Leinart said, "I've been a winner my whole career. That's the most important thing. I just win."


Wait Eli played for Ole Miss. Not exactly USC but a top tier football school for sure

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (green_blood @ Feb 27 2006, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
calm down there cowboy. dont go brokeback about this guy. hes not a bargain at the 4th pick. hes a 2nd or 3rd rounder. does he know what it is like to win? can he handle the nfl the most paid attention to league in the northwestern hemisphere? he played in vanderbilt first of all. sure they made progress with him but he has this negative aura about him that he is destined to fail. and i think we all know u were gaga about jay way before this post.[/b]


What the fvck is your point?. Like really!?!?!?. I liked him before the combine but now that I seen him perform under the microscope I think he's a lock. I'll be here for ya to force feed you a nice big serving of crow when you see him preform on the big stage. How do you like your crow? rare, medium rare or well done.


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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (VinnyTheGinny @ Feb 27 2006, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, fundementals are just that...fundementals. You have them or you don't. And what you have is honed at the COLLEGE level. The NFL is not there to teach fundementals. You should have them by the time you get there. They may be tweaked, but you have to have them.

That's like saying "oh, they'll teach you writing fundementals in college". Of course they don't. That's something you learn on a lower level. When you get up to a certain level you are EXPECTED to know certain things. If you don't you will never succeed.


Maybe I should have not said fundamentals, how about mechanic's?. Yea I think that sounds better. You are worng yet again. The coaches are there to teach mechanic's. You think a guy off the street that get's a chance to play for a team that possess good hand's and speed is not going to be taught mechanic's?. Look every Q.B coach will never look at a Q.B and say this kid is perfect, there will always be something to teach. So yes they will work with Cutler,Leinart and Young on the funementals A.K.A mechanic's and if we think that Cutler needs a bit of work Vince Young is teaching's are going to be catastrophic.
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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:25 PM

IMO, the only game ready QB in the draft is Leinart. Young and Cutler are both going to need work... how much work I don't know... Young throws sidearm and Cutler can't get his feet under him.

The sad thing is, I'm actually interested in the Jets picking up Marcus Vick... we got 3 #4s... he might be the steal of the draft and Mangini might be the no-nonesense type of guy that can keep him straight.
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