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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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  1. In Topic: Bleacher Report Smith Is Gone A Matter Of Time.

    Posted 20 Apr 2015

    View PostMikeGangGreenFan2, on 17 April 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

    Besides the fact he sucks I don't want a quarterback who can't tell time when he goes to a movie and miss a team meeting. That just shows he doesn't care.


    Exactly. If it were up to me He would have been cut a long time ago. Anyone with half a brain knows California is in the pacific time zone or 3 hours behind NY, that's just common knowledge. I really hope we move up and draft Winston or draft Brent Hundley.

    In an ideal world I think mccagnan has to move back in round one if at all possible. We could then get Hundley and one of those elite RB's then to defense in round 2 with the extra pick.
  2. In Topic: Myers: Brees/rivers In Mix For Jets

    Posted 1 Apr 2015

    View PostROBJETS, on 29 March 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

    Not disagreeing with you on Milliner but he has been hurt a few times and was thrown right out at the start covering the best receivers so I cant call him a bust quite yet . Milliner is to early to tell yet. He was thrown into the fire with only 2 seasons of play so he might surprise us. He looked good at times and other times bad along with getting hurt. If he can be a solid 3rd corner behind the two starters that's all I ask right now. He may well yet develop into a starter. Not every player can handle the game speed right off the bat some need a few years. He may never get it but as far as I'm concerned its to early to call him a bust.Mainly because our entire secondary was near league worst.If he sucks at 3rd corner in nickle and dime I will be calling him a bust then because if he cant make it as a back up covering 3rd and 4th receivers then yes he will be a definite bust then.

    Wilson was a first round busts and fans here kept defending him for some stupid reason even though he kept dropping in the depth chart. he wasn't even reliable coming in in the nickle and dime packages. He dropped all the way to the 5th string corner yet some of the fans kept defending him. I have no idea why.If he had been reliable he would've been the solid third corner but he wasn't he dropped more and more in his position.He started one game the past two years and did absolutely nothing and is gone this year. So yes Wilson was a definite bust and no one can argue it now.

    Geno might be a bust but a first round pick wasn't wasted on him and second round picks on qbs aren't sure things.

    Its kind of funny though you calling out busts on the team and want Mariota so bad and yet he has the same problems Sanchez had who was also a first round 6th pick. Cant throw to the outside, holds the ball to long, very seldom goes through his progressions(usually hits first read) and not good with improvising if the play breaks down. Yes he is fast but running the ball when the play breaks down in college wont work for him in the NFL. When the play breaks down he doesn't run to pass he runs to run and he will get demolished in the NFL his speed running the ball means nothing in the NFL.

    Rodgers is pretty fast but he and Russell Wilson run to pass a lot so the defense doesn't know if they are running or passing. No one was faster than Vick and he ran all over the league for a couple of years. After that first major hit he took it was all down hill from their. He got broke up. RG3 tried the same thing and look where its got him. Hurt.If Mariota comes in the NFL running the ball and he will be on season IR probably the first year if he starts right off the bat.


    I'm so convinced he will be bust in the NFL I will literally be astonished, amazed and feel like its a miracle and gladly eat crow if he is successful. I'm a man of my word and if he is successful I will Take the word reaming from everyone on the forum. That`s how convinced I am that this guy is not worth a first round pick no even average starting caliber.

    If he stays around and takes 4-6 years or more to become half decent that isn't successful in my book that's a journeyman type of qb


    I clearly stated that I would pass on Maroita in the draft.
  3. In Topic: Myers: Brees/rivers In Mix For Jets

    Posted 28 Mar 2015

    View PostROBJETS, on 27 March 2015 - 04:52 AM, said:

    I will take your word for it on Gurley. I only saw him play in like two games so cant agree or disagree with you but as far as the acl injury I wouldn't take much stock in it. Peterson recovered from an acl tear very nicely.He is young so I guess we will see what his future is like.

    As far as Mariota though I dont feel he is 1st round calibur. I really feel he is going to turn out to be a bust wherever he plays. As much as you want him I dont want him but whatever I guess we will see. No sense worrying about something 6 weeks away.As long as they get the pick right with a solid 1st rounder that's all Im worried about.

    Id rather go with more of a sure thing than the best available in a certain position just because we need it. I liked the Pryor pick in the 1st 2014.

    In 2013 most people even the analyst felt that Geno should have been a 1st round pick and many were against the Richardson pick. Turned out to be the best thing the Jets did in both cases.Taking Richardson in the 1st and waiting till the 2nd to get Geno


    I disagree about the last part only because we WASTED a 2nd round pick on Geno and drafted a bust a no. 9 in Milliner( not that he can't play just can't stay healthy). Richardson however, was a GREAT pick. I remember Kiper saying on live TV " this makes no sense for the jets and their scheme". Doesn't matter what scheme Richardson plays in he'll be a monster. As for this years draft I hope we trade back or trade picks for a elite QB or roll the dice on Winston. I agree we should pass on Mariota or use him as leverage for potential trade.
  4. In Topic: Jets 2015 Lineup (Running Updated Thread)

    Posted 12 Mar 2015

    You don't have Revis starting in the 4-3
  5. In Topic: Jets Helmet Concept Redesign

    Posted 8 Mar 2015

    View Postblk_orion, on 25 February 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:



    I like this one better. How do I make it larger?

    http://imgur.com/a/QaZHX (link is a different design then the one above)


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