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Jets hire Maccagnan as GM and Bowles as HC. Who's starting the billboard fundraiser?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 07:33 PM) FIRE BRADWAYS NONEXISTENT AS OF YET FUTURE REPLACEMENT
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 07:33 PM) FIRE BAUERS NONEXISTENT AS OF YET FUTURE REPLACEMENT
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 09:21 PM) Mangini 49ers DC
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 09:21 PM) Bad hire, the 49ers are seriously downgrading in coach. Going from Harbuagh to Tomsula, now Fangio to Mangini
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (23 January 2015 - 10:06 PM) Lol wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:17 AM) I hate when people say mangini built our team, I didn't know he was gm. Tannenbaum was good at making moves
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 02:05 PM) Bowles added pepper Johnson as dl coach, nice
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 04:13 PM) FIRE JOHNSON
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 04:13 PM) MORE TURNOVER
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 06:05 PM) I'm loving all these additions to the JETS coaching staff
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 06:06 PM) I can't wait to see what Maccagnan does in Free Agency and in the draft
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 07:40 PM) @AlbertBreer
The Jets are hiring Bears nat'l scout Rex Hogan as their director of college scouting. Chicago has released him from his contract
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 07:40 PM) @AlbertBreer 14m14 minutes ago
The Jets are also hiring Rams scout Brian Heimerdinger to a prominent front-office role. St. Louis let him out of his deal.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 07:48 PM) Heimerdinger is our director of player personnel now
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:12 PM) That is Mike Heimerdinger's son who used to be our OC in 05
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:12 PM) hopefully his son isn't as horrible as his pop was at play calling
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:17 PM) Everyone looks like a bad playcaller when you have no QB and have no talent
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:18 PM) When Heimerdinger was our OC it was when we had a ton of injuries on offense, were down to our 4th or 5th string QB
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:42 PM) FIRE HOGAN
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:42 PM) FIRE HEIMERDINGER
ganggreen2003 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 08:47 PM) STFU Harlem you are f***ing getting real annoying with this FIRE bullshit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 09:13 PM) I thought you didn't pay attention to me
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 09:14 PM) You aaaaaare the wind beneath my wiiiiiiiiiings
a1elbow2.0 Icon : (24 January 2015 - 09:33 PM) I wonder if any possible new members come here, see no new posts for days and these about box conversations and wonder how the f*** this site is operational
MikeGangGree... Icon : (25 January 2015 - 12:22 AM) Would u rather FIRE EVERYONE or SUCK FOR THE DUCK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 January 2015 - 05:20 PM) Looks like we are having a blizzard the next 2 days over here.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 January 2015 - 06:50 PM) My boss still said to come in lol
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (25 January 2015 - 06:50 PM) Possibility for midday dismissal though
Chadforpresi... Icon : (25 January 2015 - 09:52 PM) FIRE HARLEM
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:11 AM) FIRE YOU
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:07 PM) FIRE NYJETSFAN.COM
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:36 PM) this site has become dismal.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 PM) Thanks Obama.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:49 PM) But really for all of you complaining about the site. What is there to talk about? We have a new GM and HC that we don't know how good or bad they'll be yet. So there really isn't much to talk about with the draft still months away.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:59 PM) Even I can't blame Obama :drinks:
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:42 PM) It could be worse
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:42 PM) we could be Phinzrage
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) We got nothing to talk about
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 09:43 AM) HIRE MR JET
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:17 AM) There are some good OGs available in FA, we have to sign one
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:18 AM) Willie Colon was rated as one of the worst in football last season. So was Winters. Oday shows promise
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:18 AM) Orlando Franklin, Mike Iupati, Clint Boling. Should sign one
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:34 PM) Franklin or Iupati would be great
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 01:46 PM) hey reg how did you make out in this storm?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 01:47 PM) we got slammed with snow but the wind didn't knock out our power so I made out pretty unscathed here in RI
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  1. The Mariota/winston Bowl

    Posted 2 Jan 2015

    I imagine a lot of people today are praising Mariota over Winston after last night's game. I see it the complete opposite way. To get the stats out of the way, they are almost identical:

    Mariota - 26/36 - 338 yards - 2 TD - 1 INT
    Winston - 29/45 - 348 yards - 1 TD - 1 INT

    First, Mariota. What people have to remember when watching him is that almost all of his throws are to wide-open receivers, behind the line of scrimmage, and/or on the first read. This is the simplification people talk about when referring to a QB coming from a spread system. In the NFL, even an NFL where spread concepts are becoming more common, a QB is going to be required to work through progressions and throw into tight windows that don't even exist when the ball leaves his hand. Mariota was rarely required to go through his progressions to find the open receiver. The few times he had to did not produce as much success. Such as this interception play, or the almost interception at the goal line that the FSU defender dropped.

    Mariota INT

    Mariota may be able to learn to do these things, but there is no way of knowing if he can at this point. And that should be too much risk for him to be drafted in the first round.

    Does he have elite speed and athleticism? Yes.

    Does he have good arm strength and accuracy? Yes.

    Does he seem poised and confident on the field? Yes.

    These are all good traits, but they are more like prerequisites for a QB. It's akin to a pitching prospect needing to have a 90+ mph fastball at a minimum to begin working on all the others things required to be a great pitcher. Mariota has the fastball, can he develop all the other traits and nuances required of a successful NFL QB?


    Winston, on the other hand, is working in an NFL system. He has certainly had some head-scratching games this season...and is probably very lucky to have been undefeated up until this point. However, given all that has happened off-field with him...I think its still pretty impressive how well he has played on the field. Most probably would have crumbled under the scrutiny.

    Side note. None of us know enough of the truth to pass judgement on his off-field transgressions, it will be up to the teams to figure that out in interviews. I will say he seems like a great leader and competitor when on the field. If he truly is guilty of rape...well...he shouldn't be in the NFL. But, if he just did some immature things with the spotlight of the world on him...I'm fine with that as long as he learns from the mistakes.

    Winston played a great game last night. His lone interception was tipped at the line but still hit the receiver in the hands...who then proceeded to alley oop the ball right to the defender. His self-sack fumble is comical...but it came on a 4th down play where he was trying to make a play and lost his footing after displaying great pocket presence to evade several defenders. You'd be a pretty shitty scout to judge anything based on one play where he fell down.

    Winston's Butt Fumble

    FSU also suffered 2 crucial fumbles by freshman RB Dalvin Cook (who looks like a great player by the way). Take away those fumbles and Winston is probably throwing for over 400 yards and maybe some more TDs. The main thing Winston showed he can do last night that Mariota hasn't, is throw to receivers who are covered.

    Did he throw over and around defenders into tight windows? Yes.

    Did he lead his receivers open with throws that show anticipation? Yes.

    Did he go through his progressions and show the pocket awareness to make plays? Yes.

    I hope Mariota succeeds. He seems like a great guy and would be very exciting to watch in the NFL, but if I'm a GM there is no way I'm staking my job on him.

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    22 Dec 2010 - 17:29
    Hurricane , I think you should do a top ten poll on
    this Guy Camenzind something funny harsh loving and defining his moment.run it buy S-Dubb for some Ideas.
    could be pot of the year.
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    19 Apr 2007 - 22:02
    Hey brah, just dropping by to say you should be on TV over Kiper, you're a Draft genius.
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