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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:36 PM) yessssssssssssssss
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:53 PM) So now we have to pull for the Pats against the Bills to stay even with them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:53 PM) BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 04:54 PM) Hate my life
vjdbbq Icon : (22 November 2015 - 06:11 PM) SLIDE YOU f*** HEAD SLIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vjdbbq Icon : (22 November 2015 - 06:11 PM) I don't want to see Geno !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 November 2015 - 11:42 PM) Report is mangold has a severe cut on his hand
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 02:12 AM) Jets playoff hopes are seriously on the edge of going down the drain with all the close records, tie breakers and better division win %.Steelers and Chiefs are prime for the 2 wild card spots. Jets pretty much need to run the table at this point for even a shot at a wildcard.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 02:14 AM) Sucks big time after the season started so promising. 4-1 to total implosion. It sucks even more because we are so used to it we expect it every year now.
vjdbbq Icon : (23 November 2015 - 08:52 AM) Nice ass rob
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 12:31 PM) Jets cut copels today
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 12:32 PM) Coples
NJAzrael71 Icon : (23 November 2015 - 01:24 PM) Scott20119.....how about you go troll and spam some other site? Spammers can go f*** themselves.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:39 PM) vjdbbq you have some serious metal and IQ issues. Why dont you go back to your old ways of never posting when you had only 5 or 6 posts since your join date in 07.
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:39 PM) mental
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:49 PM) Thanks for the news MGG. If the FO didn't try to shop him before the trade deadline it was stupid because releasing him now they get nothing. Maybe no one would've traded but if so even a 6th or 7th round draft pick or someone the team might be able to use would've been better than nothing
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 05:51 PM) He sucked this year but did have a career best 6.5 sacks in 2014 so a team change might work out for him.
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) Couples will land on the Bills when Rex grabs him off waivers
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:37 PM) in the mean time does anyone think we would have a better record under Rex with this same team?
ROBJETS Icon : (23 November 2015 - 07:53 PM) Couples....it wouldn't surprise me and .....with Rex its hard to tell. His defensive scheming may be the best in football but this team has had a lot of injuries on both sides of the ball which has absolutely cost the team at least 3 games ......so as far as better record. it would be simply an opinion. Bowles has done a good job so I have no problems with him other than time out usage. That said I feel rex got a bad rap because he never had a qb even on Fitz caliber and Fitz is just average. But that is in the past so no sense even debating about it now. Rex is with a new team and we finally have a qb who doesn't completely suck. Still wish we had a true high level franchise qb though.
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:34 PM) Watching the game and I am finding myself yelling at the bills offensive playcalling
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:34 PM) Just stipupidity
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:35 PM) run the ball every time on first and second with zero sucess
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:36 PM) Out D is no where near as good as it should be under Bowles. I'm not sure why. I guess it's easy to blame Bowles but the bend and don't break philosophy isn't working
azjetfan Icon : (23 November 2015 - 09:39 PM) They should ban that pick play.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (23 November 2015 - 11:54 PM) As bad as we have played lately we are still a better coached team without Rex. Rex still has no clue how to manage the clock
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:03 AM) See. Can't manage the clock
vjdbbq Icon : (24 November 2015 - 08:05 AM) Hello Rob
vjdbbq Icon : (24 November 2015 - 08:06 AM) They cut coples to save money in case he got hurt practicing since he hardly played ; a business move .
Jetsfan115 Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:58 PM) our D was better with shit CBs last year. rex is just better at calling a defense then bowles
Jetsfan115 Icon : (24 November 2015 - 12:58 PM) hopefully milliner comes back. where has mcdougle been? revis hurt and cro hurt
Jetsfan115 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 02:37 PM) coples picked up by miami. we play him on sunday now lol
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:08 PM) We need a real edge rusher
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:08 PM) We are gonna trade Richardson or Wilkerson after this season, hopefully we can then get a edge rusher to compliment them
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:10 PM) I never wanted the Jets to draft Coples, he was clearly going to be a bust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (25 November 2015 - 05:10 PM) hes not athletic enough for OLB either, doesn't have enough fluidity in the hips. He can be a decent player, but he needs to be a interior pass rusher
vjdbbq Icon : (26 November 2015 - 07:45 AM) Happy Thanksgiving to Rob !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vjdbbq Icon : (26 November 2015 - 07:45 AM) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
MikeGangGree... Icon : (26 November 2015 - 11:18 PM) Hope everyone had a good thanksgiving
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) Why does this site have all these crazy people?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Revix
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 08:04 AM) Revis out week 12 vs. Fish .......concussion .....per bleacher report
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 08:07 AM) I hear you AZ but this is the Internet. Nutty people on pretty much every site, mouthy kids, and tough people on the net but not in real life.......just try to ignore them. I'm doing my best to. That said no one is perfect. We all have our issues like me with essays....lol
vjdbbq Icon : (Today, 08:33 AM) Hello AZ
vjdbbq Icon : (Today, 08:34 AM) We are the sane ones ; you guys are crazy !!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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  1. The Mariota/winston Bowl

    Posted 2 Jan 2015

    I imagine a lot of people today are praising Mariota over Winston after last night's game. I see it the complete opposite way. To get the stats out of the way, they are almost identical:

    Mariota - 26/36 - 338 yards - 2 TD - 1 INT
    Winston - 29/45 - 348 yards - 1 TD - 1 INT

    First, Mariota. What people have to remember when watching him is that almost all of his throws are to wide-open receivers, behind the line of scrimmage, and/or on the first read. This is the simplification people talk about when referring to a QB coming from a spread system. In the NFL, even an NFL where spread concepts are becoming more common, a QB is going to be required to work through progressions and throw into tight windows that don't even exist when the ball leaves his hand. Mariota was rarely required to go through his progressions to find the open receiver. The few times he had to did not produce as much success. Such as this interception play, or the almost interception at the goal line that the FSU defender dropped.

    Mariota INT

    Mariota may be able to learn to do these things, but there is no way of knowing if he can at this point. And that should be too much risk for him to be drafted in the first round.

    Does he have elite speed and athleticism? Yes.

    Does he have good arm strength and accuracy? Yes.

    Does he seem poised and confident on the field? Yes.

    These are all good traits, but they are more like prerequisites for a QB. It's akin to a pitching prospect needing to have a 90+ mph fastball at a minimum to begin working on all the others things required to be a great pitcher. Mariota has the fastball, can he develop all the other traits and nuances required of a successful NFL QB?

    Winston, on the other hand, is working in an NFL system. He has certainly had some head-scratching games this season...and is probably very lucky to have been undefeated up until this point. However, given all that has happened off-field with him...I think its still pretty impressive how well he has played on the field. Most probably would have crumbled under the scrutiny.

    Side note. None of us know enough of the truth to pass judgement on his off-field transgressions, it will be up to the teams to figure that out in interviews. I will say he seems like a great leader and competitor when on the field. If he truly is guilty of rape...well...he shouldn't be in the NFL. But, if he just did some immature things with the spotlight of the world on him...I'm fine with that as long as he learns from the mistakes.

    Winston played a great game last night. His lone interception was tipped at the line but still hit the receiver in the hands...who then proceeded to alley oop the ball right to the defender. His self-sack fumble is comical...but it came on a 4th down play where he was trying to make a play and lost his footing after displaying great pocket presence to evade several defenders. You'd be a pretty shitty scout to judge anything based on one play where he fell down.

    Winston's Butt Fumble

    FSU also suffered 2 crucial fumbles by freshman RB Dalvin Cook (who looks like a great player by the way). Take away those fumbles and Winston is probably throwing for over 400 yards and maybe some more TDs. The main thing Winston showed he can do last night that Mariota hasn't, is throw to receivers who are covered.

    Did he throw over and around defenders into tight windows? Yes.

    Did he lead his receivers open with throws that show anticipation? Yes.

    Did he go through his progressions and show the pocket awareness to make plays? Yes.

    I hope Mariota succeeds. He seems like a great guy and would be very exciting to watch in the NFL, but if I'm a GM there is no way I'm staking my job on him.

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    gmany3k Icon

    22 Dec 2010 - 17:29
    Hurricane , I think you should do a top ten poll on
    this Guy Camenzind something funny harsh loving and defining his moment.run it buy S-Dubb for some Ideas.
    could be pot of the year.
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    Chadforpresidentin08 Icon

    19 Apr 2007 - 22:02
    Hey brah, just dropping by to say you should be on TV over Kiper, you're a Draft genius.
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