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ganggreen2003 Icon : (30 August 2015 - 07:50 PM) Any word on Leonard Williams injury?
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2015 - 11:49 PM) He will be ready week 1. Just a sprain
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 10:33 AM) so we whooped the giants ass pretty badly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 10:38 AM) bills cut fred jackson
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:29 PM) We got lucky with Williams
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:30 PM) Hes looked like a beast as well, so we need him healthy. Hes gonna be a future all pro
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:31 PM) Our offense can be competent this season
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 12:33 PM) Zac Stacy was a good add
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:46 PM) I'm surprised Freeman was cut, I thought he was a solid backup center. Guess they like Wesley Johnson better
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:58 PM) our offense is passable. we should put up 14-17 a game average
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:58 PM) should be enough for our Defense. our d-line is nasty with wilk, rich, snacks, and now williams
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM) out MLBs get picked on in coverage though. davis had a rough game
Jetsfan115 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 01:59 PM) our Cbs are way too good. cro revis and skrine. plus mcdougle looked solid. when milliner comes back, him being a dime back could be huge too
Jetsman05 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 02:24 PM) 17 points a game is "passable"? If we average 17 a game this season, we won't win more than 5 ball games.
Jetsman05 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 02:24 PM) Needs to be 20+
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 05:33 PM) Our offense should be better than its been in years
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (31 August 2015 - 05:34 PM) which wouldn't take much
Jetsfan115 Icon : (01 September 2015 - 12:03 PM) another ex jet going to the pats http://theredzone.or...ms/Default.aspx
Jetsfan115 Icon : (01 September 2015 - 12:04 PM) our defense should allow an average of less then 14 a game IMO. If we can average 17 a agme I think we can win 9-10
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (01 September 2015 - 12:25 PM) Jace Amaro was put on IR, torn labrum.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (01 September 2015 - 12:26 PM) That sucks, I was looking forward to him at TE
ROBJETS Icon : (01 September 2015 - 07:24 PM) Labrum tear....definitely out for the year. Its not a bad surgery. I used the sling for about a week before I ditched it completely. Supposed to use it for a full 6 weeks. You can get away without it but just have to be careful not raising or moving your arm much and no lifting of pretty much anything. As far as fully healing ....6 mon ths minimum but for lifting heavy and full contact sports I wouldnt trust 6 months
ROBJETS Icon : (01 September 2015 - 07:31 PM) Still not that bad of a surgery on a pain scale. after a few days it mostly just aches like hell. ice and keeping your arm still is important. sleeping is major hard for the first 3 weeks or so. You wake up in pain a god bit. Id be dreaming and jerk my right arm up or move it wrong or lay on it wrong and wake up in major pain. still I liked t better without the sling than being completely immobile with one arm and healed just fine. He will come back from it fine
ganggreen2003 Icon : (01 September 2015 - 08:37 PM) sucks we lost Amaro for the season
santana Icon : (02 September 2015 - 09:34 AM) http://sport.woot.co...ef=gh_sp_6_wp_3
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:47 AM) No suspension for Brady, what a joke
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:26 PM) I don't think it is a joke but f*** him.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:15 PM) f*** new england
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:15 PM) he still was behind the balls being deflated
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:16 PM) he authorized those 2 employees to do that to the footballs
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:16 PM) he is a diva so f*** that classless organization
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:21 PM) it's especially sickening living in the middle of CHEATriot country and listening to these assclowns up here make excuses for their POS QB
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:21 PM) and that classless organization
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:13 PM) who's watching this game tonight?
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:09 PM) INT and then he fumbles it away
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:09 PM) f***ing Walls
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:15 PM) Stacy is runnin the rock
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:15 PM) all running plays so far
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:18 PM) TOUCHDOWN NEW YORK JETS!!!!
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:45 PM) TOUCHDOWN NEW YORK JETS!!!!
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:45 PM) 14-3
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) We are really dumb if we cut Kerley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:23 AM) we won't cut him this year, next year we might
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:42 AM) steve waetherford got cut by the giants, they traded the steelers for brad wing
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 12:38 PM) bills cut IK
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  1. The Mariota/winston Bowl

    Posted 2 Jan 2015

    I imagine a lot of people today are praising Mariota over Winston after last night's game. I see it the complete opposite way. To get the stats out of the way, they are almost identical:

    Mariota - 26/36 - 338 yards - 2 TD - 1 INT
    Winston - 29/45 - 348 yards - 1 TD - 1 INT

    First, Mariota. What people have to remember when watching him is that almost all of his throws are to wide-open receivers, behind the line of scrimmage, and/or on the first read. This is the simplification people talk about when referring to a QB coming from a spread system. In the NFL, even an NFL where spread concepts are becoming more common, a QB is going to be required to work through progressions and throw into tight windows that don't even exist when the ball leaves his hand. Mariota was rarely required to go through his progressions to find the open receiver. The few times he had to did not produce as much success. Such as this interception play, or the almost interception at the goal line that the FSU defender dropped.

    Mariota INT

    Mariota may be able to learn to do these things, but there is no way of knowing if he can at this point. And that should be too much risk for him to be drafted in the first round.

    Does he have elite speed and athleticism? Yes.

    Does he have good arm strength and accuracy? Yes.

    Does he seem poised and confident on the field? Yes.

    These are all good traits, but they are more like prerequisites for a QB. It's akin to a pitching prospect needing to have a 90+ mph fastball at a minimum to begin working on all the others things required to be a great pitcher. Mariota has the fastball, can he develop all the other traits and nuances required of a successful NFL QB?


    Winston, on the other hand, is working in an NFL system. He has certainly had some head-scratching games this season...and is probably very lucky to have been undefeated up until this point. However, given all that has happened off-field with him...I think its still pretty impressive how well he has played on the field. Most probably would have crumbled under the scrutiny.

    Side note. None of us know enough of the truth to pass judgement on his off-field transgressions, it will be up to the teams to figure that out in interviews. I will say he seems like a great leader and competitor when on the field. If he truly is guilty of rape...well...he shouldn't be in the NFL. But, if he just did some immature things with the spotlight of the world on him...I'm fine with that as long as he learns from the mistakes.

    Winston played a great game last night. His lone interception was tipped at the line but still hit the receiver in the hands...who then proceeded to alley oop the ball right to the defender. His self-sack fumble is comical...but it came on a 4th down play where he was trying to make a play and lost his footing after displaying great pocket presence to evade several defenders. You'd be a pretty shitty scout to judge anything based on one play where he fell down.

    Winston's Butt Fumble

    FSU also suffered 2 crucial fumbles by freshman RB Dalvin Cook (who looks like a great player by the way). Take away those fumbles and Winston is probably throwing for over 400 yards and maybe some more TDs. The main thing Winston showed he can do last night that Mariota hasn't, is throw to receivers who are covered.

    Did he throw over and around defenders into tight windows? Yes.

    Did he lead his receivers open with throws that show anticipation? Yes.

    Did he go through his progressions and show the pocket awareness to make plays? Yes.

    I hope Mariota succeeds. He seems like a great guy and would be very exciting to watch in the NFL, but if I'm a GM there is no way I'm staking my job on him.

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    22 Dec 2010 - 17:29
    Hurricane , I think you should do a top ten poll on
    this Guy Camenzind something funny harsh loving and defining his moment.run it buy S-Dubb for some Ideas.
    could be pot of the year.
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    19 Apr 2007 - 22:02
    Hey brah, just dropping by to say you should be on TV over Kiper, you're a Draft genius.
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