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MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:31 PM) Not f***ing happy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:31 PM) I hope I'm wrong tho
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:31 PM) if I'm wrong I will eat m crow
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:39 PM) Some mocks had him top 10
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:42 PM) this guy is small
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:45 PM) Most mocks had Lee at 17 to the Falcons
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:45 PM) He's a day 1 starter for us. We've needed OLB forever
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:46 PM) Plus we generate a great rush from wilk rich and Williams
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:50 PM) I wanted Lawson bad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:50 PM) f***ing bills
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:51 PM) Lee fills a need better
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:52 PM) I would have liked tunsil to slide to us though. After east picking great
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:52 PM) Would you take Lee over Lawson?
azjetfan Icon : (28 April 2016 - 09:55 PM) I'm not inspire by that pick. Not even a little
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:01 PM) Wasn't an option. Lawson was gone
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:02 PM) Lawson is more of a de. We already have too many of those. We only have 1 proven LBer and he's 32 and we run a 3-4. Lee is a day 1 starter
Jetsfan115 Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:03 PM) Broncos traded up for lynch
MikeGangGree... Icon : (28 April 2016 - 10:41 PM) Round 1 is done
2JBallar01 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 12:43 AM) He will play ILB for us.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 11:08 AM) http://nyjetsfan.com...showtopic=38865
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 11:19 AM) jets tried to trade up for tunsil but the price was too high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 05:10 PM) Tunsil will end up out of the league
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 05:12 PM) Lee isn't a pass rusher, hes a fast athletic LB. Hes probably their future at ILB, someone who can cover in the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:16 PM) jets said he's an ILB for us
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:17 PM) If we could grab jack he would be an OLB
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:17 PM) ttians have 3 picks in the next 13 picks
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:33 PM) jack to jax 36th overal
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 06:33 PM) Did you hear that the 1st round pick for the Browns RETIRED after getting drafted
SoReALSoJetS Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:29 PM) Hi guys long time no talk hope everyone is well
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM) SMH
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:46 PM) JETS drafted QB Hackenberg PSU
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:47 PM) Should have picked Connor Cook.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 April 2016 - 07:56 PM) I guess we are giving up on petty
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 09:02 PM) Or giving up on geno
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 April 2016 - 09:02 PM) I said the rumor was they liked him more then cook
Mr_Jet Icon : (29 April 2016 - 11:35 PM) I know I'm biased, but I've seen them both play. Cook is just better. Hackenberg had one good year. Cook has won more games, played in big games and won them....whatever, its done now so no sense on dwelling on it I guess. I just don't see the appeal in Hackenberg, nice kid, but I always thought he was really overrated. Oh well. I would have taken Kevin Hogan over Hackenberg.
azjetfan Icon : (30 April 2016 - 03:47 PM) From what I have read so far he had a great freshman year under Obrien in a pro style offense. At that point some considered him the next Andrew luck. Then Obrien left and they shifted to a spread under new HC who did poor job bringing in talent. He was also sacked and hit a million times. Might be shell shocked.
Smedsthejet Icon : (01 May 2016 - 06:17 AM) But Chan Gailey runs a spread system - still, I'm comfortable with the Hackenberg pick seeing as Gailey will develop the system to suit his strength... I'm just glad that we passed on Paxton Lynch in the first...we still desperately need Fitz to re-sign though
azjetfan Icon : (01 May 2016 - 07:14 PM) From my understanding the spread in college and the spread in NFL are not the same principals. I really think it was more of a talent issue and getting sacked 80 times in 2 years that did him in. I have no idea if he will make it. I don't follow college ball enough to to know. Theses are just things I read in articles.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (02 May 2016 - 10:24 AM) I'm stoked about getting peake in the 7th round. that was a steal. he was a projected 3rd rounder. wonder what scared teams away
Jetsfan115 Icon : (02 May 2016 - 06:05 PM) Jets Invite Terron Beckham(Odell's Cousin) to Minicamp
Jetsfan115 Icon : (02 May 2016 - 06:06 PM) Listed as a RB had more bench presses and highest vertical of anyone this year. Hasn't played football since high school and apparently not very smart
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:16 PM) The Jets had Hackenberg as their #2 rated QB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:16 PM) Apparently, they loved Golf and tried to trade up. When that failed, their #2 QB was Hackenberg, they fell in love with his football IQ
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:17 PM) It would be a mistake to start him right away, hes a guy who needs development. He has the talent, and apparently he has good leadership skills and football IQ. His mechanics are off though
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  1. In Topic: Possible Choices For Jets 2Nd Round Pick

    Posted 2 May 2016

    View PostJetsfan115, on 29 April 2016 - 09:07 AM, said:

    1) Myles Jack - 6-1 245lbs OLB
    widely regarded as a top 3 player in the draft. didn't get drafted in the 1st due to some medical concerns about the longevity of his career. Yes we already drafted an OLB in Lee but can still use both. One could slide to the inside. This would give us a very good and young LBer group that has needed youth and speed for years. Mouldin is in his 2nd year, 2 rookies, and veteran david harris as the captain. He probably won't fall, wouldn't' be surprised to see him go in the 1st 5 picks of round 2



    2) Reggie Ragland ILB - 6-1 247 lbs
    considered a top 15 prospect by some. Slid out of the 1st round and would fill the same need as jack, he's just not as good but still a 1st round talent

    3) Henry Hunter TE - 6-5 250
    The best TE in the draft would fill a huge need. we have amaro who is unknown and coming off injury and davis who couldn't catch herpes from a cheap hooker so this would be an instant upgrade on offense. Ranked 22nd overall in the draft, he's a 1st round talent

    4) Derrick Henry RB 6-3 247lbs
    Not a big need, but Henry is a physical bruiser and one of the biggest backs you'll ever see. with 4.5 speed and a top performer very jump, broad jump, and 60yd shuttle. His negatives are a lack of ability in the pass game and a long strider. But he can wear down a defense and still has homerun speed.

    5) Connor Cook QB 6-4 217 lbs
    Future QB is still a need for us. regardless what happens with fitz
    Strengths Four-year starter who has shown consistent improvement and added new elements to his game each year. Can operate with a high level of confidence and efficiency. Worked under center and plays with good foot quickness in his drops. Shows good anticipation for developing windows and effective with timing routes. Will continue to scan and re-­scan thru targets when on the move. Reads safeties early and rarely takes shots downfield that safeties can get involved with. Comfortable operating on the move. Throws in rhythm and with accuracy when rolling right. Plus arm strength with compact, lightning quick release. Able to make big boy throws with pace into difficult, dangerous windows. Will stand in and take the hit to challenge man defender with a deep shot. Attacks edges of end zone with touch throws. Didn't shrink away from duties when asked to run the ball. More battle tested than any quarterback in this draft.
    Weaknesses Habit of throwing short passes with too much pepper. Accuracy is a major concern. Often caught flat- footed in the pocket and appears willing to launch throws without proper balance or step to target. Open front hip causes him to spray outside frame of his intended target. Sees throws come open but won't always cut it loose. Can struggle mightily when forced off of his first option. Misses opportunities to adjust protection pre-­snap. Gets locked in on shotgun snap and misses signs of blitzers sneaking forward. First instinct versus blitz is to go up top rather than finding easier, short completion. Gives little effort to sell play­ fakes even on run downs. Scouts question his field demeanor and leadership in adverse times. Failed to rise to the occasion in 2015 Big Ten Championship Game or playoff game against Alabama.

    6) Christian Hackenberg QB 6-4 223lbs
    Same as cook. rumor is the jets prefer hackenberg to cook though
    Strengths Prototypical size for pocket quarterback. Durable and tough. Willing to hang in and take the hit if he thinks a completion is pending. Took a pounding and never missed a start. Experienced in pro-style attack and played well in Bill O'Brien's scheme as a freshman. Able and willing to work through progressions when protected. Balls comes out of his hand with pro velocity. Can drive hips through his release for extra mustard. Can make all the throws, and has the arm talent to take shots to areas of the field that most quarterbacks can't. Underrated in touch throw department. Can float the ball over top of defenders and deliver it on a pillow. Decent athlete able to climb pocket while keeping his eyes downfield. Recognizes and points out late blitz movement pre-snap. Recognizes danger and able to avoid most baiting attempts. Dropped interception total from 15 in 2014 to just six in 2015. Twice voted team captain and has displayed leadership qualities from time he stepped on campus.

    7) Andre Billings NT 6-1 311lbs
    Not a huge need but with harrison gone and good NTs so hard to find, could be a great decision
    Strengths Elite power with a weight­lifting background. Generates booming power from hip explosion and when his leverage is on point, he can be menacing. Moved from offensive line to defensive line in college and is getting better by leaps and bounds each year. Drops his pad level even lower when splitting double teams and charging through gaps. Uses violent, powerful swats and slaps to free of opposing hand placement. Instant reaction time makes it difficult to cross his face. Gets arm extension into blocker and stays clean as he pursues laterally. Ridiculous closing burst to the sideline for a big man. Dominates single blocks and is a sure­fire tackler when he gets hands on a running back. Improving pass rusher with an effective bull­ rush.

    8) Le'Raven Clark OT 6-5 316LBS
    with brick retiring and breno just being bad OT is a big need for us. We did trade for Clady but he's not exactly young and has injury concerns.

    Overview

    Clark started 51 straight games for the Red Raiders, spending his final three years at left tackle and his freshman season at right guard. All three years at left tackle, he earned All-Big 12 honors, and as a senior he was named a second-team All-American for his efforts. It's unclear where Clark's best position will be at the next level; he flashes the lateral agility and recovery speed to play on the edge against college pass rushers, so he should get a shot at left tackle. It’s possible, though, that Clark might be best inside where he can lock on and create creases for the running game. His durability, pro-ready body (6-6, 313), and next-level tenacity make him a likely NFL starter wherever he lines up.

    Pro Day Results
    Vertical: 30 inches
    Broad jump: 9 feet, 1 inch
    Analysis
    Strengths Possesses good thickness through his rear and thighs helping him drop and anchor. Plays with outstanding foot quickness in his pass sets. Able to mirror head­-faking pass rushers like a cornerback with ability to shift weight and change directions seamlessly. Uses choppy, controlled slides in pass sets instead of long, protracted kick-­slides. Able to shut down darting inside moves with relative ease. Blessed with exceptionally long arms. Uses length and excellent timing to get hands on edge rushers quickly disrupting their game­plan. Has athleticism to effectively recover and fight back when he gets beaten. When he gets hands on defender and locks out, it is over. Has impressive sink steps inside to wall of B­-gap against twists and the backside in running game. Does adequate job of sustaining blocks. Plus lateral quickness off the snap. Can reach and seal the edge in run game. Accelerates into angle blocks, runs his feet and washes defender down. As base blocker, has ability to strike, turn and pin defensive ends on off­-tackle runs his way. Instinctive and proactive against twists.



    Some other prospects we could take in later rounds

    1) Drew Kaser P 6-2 212lbs (round 5 or 6)
    Bets punter in the draft quigley is gone, we could use some youth at the position. a big leg and touch to pin inside the 20

    2) Charone Peake WR 6-2 209lbs (round 3)
    and has 4.4 speed. inconsistent hands, injury prone, lack of production. are negatives. COuld be another stephen hill or could be a steal in the 3rd round. Risky pick, but has potential to be a true number 1 WR in a few years, or could be out of the NFL

    3) Moritz Boehringer WR 6-4 227lbs (round 5 or 6)
    bug guy with strength and 4.4 speed. Enters the draft from the german football league with 59 catches for 1200+ yards and 13TDs last year. Still a rough boom or bust kind of guy, but would fit our scheme which likes big strong WRs that can block.

    4) Jerald Hawkins OT 6-6 305lbs (round 4)
    Strengths Long­-limbed tackle with experience on both sides. Slides feet and hips into play-­side positioning after making squared contact on reach blocks and the backside. Flashes power in his paws snatching a portion of defender's frame and maintaining his grip. Plays with good weight distribution and balanced pass sets. Has foot quickness and change of direction for redirect move back inside without much hesitation and brace up his edge. Speedy snap off and search mechanism against twists. Generally well-timed climbs on combo blocks. Uses upward blow with decent hip snap into initial contact in run game. Held his own in snaps against A'Shawn Robinson from Alabama.

    Personally if we could get hawkins in the 4th, boehringer and kaser with our 7ths (or maybe trade up in the 6 to get them) that would be a good late round draft for us. but the 2nd and 3rd round picks are gonna be huge. do we go QB? another LBer? O-line? The massive NT? the big bruising RB?


    I'm happy with the draft. we didn't get hawkins in the 4th who went 5 picks later to the steelers and instead took a CB, but other then that the rest were pretty good picks IMO. (not saying burris sucks, just that CB wasn't a ened and wasn't expected)

    with our 1st and 3rd we got 2 much needed LBers and added speed on defense. with our 2nd we took the QB the jets were rumored to be targeting. we traded a 4th from next year to move into the 5th round and get an OT and wiht our 2 7ths we got a punter (much needed) and a WR that was a 3rd-4th round talent

    My grades

    1) Lee - A
    Lber has been a huge need for a while. we needed speed and youth at the position. With davis gone in FA Lee can play the same kind of role but with better pass coverage.

    2) Hackenberg A
    I know some people aren't high on him, but we all know QB was a need. with the top 3 gone the jets preferred him to cook and got their guy so i'm gonna trust the scouts

    3) Jenkins B+
    OLB was another need. pace is gone we really don't have a starter opposite 2nd year LBer moulden. Jenkins could be a starter day 1 for us depending on his camp.

    4) Burris C
    I gave an average grade. He got drafted in the right round, wasn't a reach or a steal I just don't see CB as a need right now. We still have revis, williams, milliner, mcdougle, and skrine.

    5) Shell C
    we traded a 4th rounder next year for a 5th round pick this year to get shell who was a projected 6th rounder and a project. most 5th rounders are projects so I'm ok with that and we needed o-line, just hated giving up a 4th rounder next year to get a 6th round talent.

    7)Lac Edwards B
    didn't get who i wanted, but he was drafted in the 6th. Still we got a punter which was much needed.

    7) Peake A+
    Steal of the draft. a project 3-4 round pick, we were able to grab him in the 7th. He's still raw and has to learn the position but has starting WR potential. Also has the size gailey likes and the speed we need


    Overall grade A-
    Deducted points for not addressing o-line earlier
  2. In Topic: Possible Choices For Jets 2Nd Round Pick

    Posted 29 Apr 2016

    henry and jack are gone. I'm thinking the pick for us right now is clark
  3. In Topic: Possible Jets Draft Picks

    Posted 28 Apr 2016

    So apparently the jets have soured on lynch. They like Christian Hackenberg better which could be our 2nd round pick.
  4. In Topic: Possible Jets Draft Picks

    Posted 19 Apr 2016

    View Postazjetfan, on 18 April 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:

    I watched the Grudens camp with Paxton. He really didn't light it up. He is tall and athletic but very unpolished. Even Gruden said he wouldn't be ready for a few years


    Agreed, but if goff and wentz are gone (which is highly likely) lynch has potential and if we get fitz back, lynch can site for 2 years and learn
  5. In Topic: Report: Jets Ask D'brickashaw Ferguson To Take Paycut

    Posted 12 Apr 2016

    View PostROBJETS, on 12 April 2016 - 10:35 AM, said:

    Its a good thing you dont work for the team or the Jets would be the worst team in the league every year because you would keep players around 5 to 10 years past their prime


    Whats sad is you couldn't see Brick was declining a lot the past 4 years. Even Brick knew it. No one said he sucked. Ducasse sucked.

    Its called father time in one of the most brutal sports there is. Id rank Rugby above the NFL since they dont where all the pads and helmets. All athletes no matter how good decline. Sad you cant see it.



    Bricks own words........


    "As I considered the words I would say to you, I recognize a simple truth: It just isn't easy saying goodbye," Ferguson wrote. "... Today we celebrate a different type of moment, one that marks the completion of a journey versus the start of one. Today marks my retirement from the NFL as a professional football player."

    "I never wanted to define myself by the size of a potential contract, but rather by my ability to compete with the best that the game could offer," he wrote. "Though I was successful in accomplishing that feat largely throughout my career, the difficulty in playing at such a level began to increase."


    Brick could've taken a paycut and possibly a lesser role on the team or went to Baltimore or Seattle or elsewhere and possibly made a multi year contract.He chose to retire because he knew he couldn't play at a high level anymore

    I honestly wish he would've taken a paycut and possibly more of a backup role on the team or traded if the Jets could've gotten good compensation. Cutting Brick or retirement were the worst thing for the team because they got nothing.

    That all said Brick chose to hang up his cleats and I respect that no one knows how rough he felt or how much pain he was in from the constant hits so if he felt it was time its better to retire now instead of wait until he suffers a major injury or his body fails on him from running his health into the ground.


    I never said he was worth the money we were going to pay him, but he was worth the contract we gave him at the time.
    Even with that said, sure he isn't playing up to his standards. He was a top 5 LT for like 6-7 years straight. Now the past 2 seasons or so he's been an average starter.

    A perfect example is calvin johnson who also retired. Sure he isn't performing at the level he was a few years ago, but he was still top 10 at his position. Even last year. He just isn't the best WR in the NFL anymore like he was for like 5-6 years

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