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Posted 13 Jan 2015So how do the jets get back to being competitive?
well its a long list but we'll start at the top
1) Find a GM - this has to happen 1st as it will be his job to start fixing the team. Somebody who is a football guy and hire an accountant guy as assistant GM. we need to do better in the draft and landing free agents that can help.
2) Hire a coach - whoever the GM is, he will need to pick a coach. the 2 will be tied together for quite some time. let him pick his guy. The rest of the staff is still here. out OC and DC haven't gone anywhere, finding a coach that fits with out system would be nice, but not necessary
3) Let the coach get his coordinators/assistants - were not tied to a QB. geno will be here, simms will be our emergency QB. we still don't have a starter but either way, any QB we get will need to learn our system, so changing now won't be a huge deal. The defense is built for a 3-4 but I think we can adjust to a 4-3 easily if needed. wilk stats at DE, richardson swings inside with snacks and coples moves back to DE, another option is to have rich and wilk at ends and snacks and ellis at DT and leave coples at OLB. we have enough versatility with coples who can play OLB or DE, Rich who can be a DT or DE, and Davis who has the ability to play ILB or OLB.
4) Talent - we need to add talent, between the draft and free agency. we have an as ton of money to spend. brick and mangold should restrucutre, harvin should restructure.
5) resign key players
Breakdown by position
QB) Geno and simms - we need a 3rd QB preferably someone who can start but its not out there, the best option is to land a QB. maybe winston but doubtful. I"d liek to see us find a way to land him though. if not it'll be geno and some other journeyman competing.
RB) ivory, powell, CJ - not a great group, but not bad. ivory is tough but weak in the pass game and injury prone, CJ's best years are behind him but we cna keep him 1 more year. he's a good reviever and pass blocker so he compliments ivory well. powell is a decent jack of all trades. this position can wait. bohannon will be back and connor is good. 1 of them will take the FB role
TE) amaro, cumberland, sudfeld - were good here. lets see what amaro can do, cumberland is decent, sudfeld is a good 3rd TE.
WR) harvin, decker, kerly - all 3 are locked up for 4+ years. decker has shown when healthy he is a capable number 1. keep harvin but restructure. he's explosive and compliments decker who is more a possession guy. kerly is a good slot WR who had a rough year. we need to add some depth here though. evans will be back off IR from his rookie season. we need to grab some depth though the draft or FAs
O-line) brick, mangold, colon, winters, brent - this group is terrible. mangold is still a stud, brick is declining but good enough still. the rest are trash. colon is a penalty machine who's best years are long gone, winters is a bum, and brent is a bum. both would be solid backups. abushi did ok for the injured winters but still not a starter. we need to find 2 new starters at least and demote our starters to backups and we'll have depth. need to get o-line in free agency and the draft
D-line/LBers) wilk, snacks, ellis, richardson, coples, davis, pace, harris - resign harris. he will be out MLB regardless of the system. i grouped them together because we don't know if we will be a 3-4 or 4-3 and depending on the system, some guys will change positions. either way front 7 is a strength of this team and doesn't need to be addressed. any system we play our d-line will be top 5 as will the front 7 as a whole.
DBs) not even gonna list names - this whole group is trash. period. needs major upgrades. pryor has been a bust but too young to give up on. he needs to make big improvements. he'll be out SS, landry is a decent FS but we need an upgrade, jarret has given us decent depth as does allen. I'd like to see a better FS but overall safety isn't a huge position in need of changes. guys just need to improve. CBs however are bad. milliner will get 1 more year to prove he can be healthy and play, but i don't want him as a number 1, we'll try him as a number 2. there are some decent options at CB in free agency. cro and revis should be available as well as a few other good guys. we need to land 1 of them as our number 1 CB. mcdougle will be back off IR from a rookie as the 5th CB and our 4thCB can be the one who has played well this year for us starting, i can't remember his name
SP teams) harvin is a great KR, PR is an issue, maybe evans can do it? kerly is solid but doesn't get many yards. folk had an off year but is still a stud. quigly did OK. not worried about special teams.
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I think you are being a bit of an optimist with some of these players but on the whole it makes sense. I would never keep Harvin unless he drops his demands heavily and I don't see him doing that. He is too injury prone and we could spend our money more wisely.
The O-line is truly a problem. I see Mangold as the only strong piece there anymore. To begin with, I would use some of that cap money to bring in Mike Iupati. That would really help our guard situation. Then I would spend a little more to bring in a CB - maybe that kid from the Texans (especially if Macaggnon is the new GM). Not really interested in Revis or Cromartie - prefer youth. I also think both QB's in the draft are too hit or miss for the 6 pick so I would bring in Jake Locker to compete and draft a QB later on in round 3 or so. The final cap spend would go Cobb from GB.
As for the draft, I would concentrate on a pass rusher, O-line, CB and S. We have 6 picks this year (lose one to Seattle).
The fun thing would be to think about signing Suh and changing to a 4-3 with Wilk, Richardson, Harrison and Suh up front. Let Harris walk to save even more money. Makes poor financial sense but I would pay handsomely to watch that group. Just fantasizing.
Posted 25 Nov 2014Do you SERIOUSLY believe that if we wasted millions on the player that USED to be the best CB in the game but has been getting beat up on the last 2 seasons would have us with a better record right now? I certainly don't. If Mevis was here, there would be no Decker, no C. Johnson, no Vick & no Chris Ivory and our secondary would STILL be getting lit up like a Christmas tree.
So yeah.......I do have the balls to post such a thread. Mevis is overrated and had the chance to be here but he chose not to be when he decided he'd rather be a journeyman instead of a potential Hall of Famer. His chances of making the hall has GREATLY decreased the last 2 years. He went from looking like a 1st ballot guy to being just another CB who USED to have special talent. Revis Island has been sunk.
Maybe they could sink him here next year. I don't know where you are getting this information that Revis is a shell of himself. He is light years better than anything we have or could have ever dreamed about having. And I don't like the guy. I think he is a cold business person who has no loyalty to anything but money. having said that, he is outstanding at his craft.
And when you try and compare him to us getting Decker, Vick, Ivory, Johnson, I would say that while I like Decker and love Ivory - our offense has put up 10 TD's this entire year and not scored over 25 points even once. So I am at a loss to understand the financial comparison. How about we got all those guys and still had $24 million left over. We could have had Revis as well.
More importantly, Revis is gone. We need to face up to the fact that we have no offensive line, QB, CB's, pass rushers and our safety Pryor may be a bust.
Idzik is horrendous, Rex needs to go, we either draft Marriota or Winston OR trade the pick for more picks and build up the O-line and CB's and draft a pass rushing OLB and then pick up a Henne, Stanton type of QB (like Orton), who can sit back and be accurate - just not a world beater.
Posted 4 May 2014Why compare that to the Seattle situation??? The Seahawks took Russell Wilson in round 3, big difference than investing a 18th overall pick in a QB. I rather pass on Bridgewater, don't think hes all that special and I don't see what makes him better than Geno Smith.
I think that it's pretty much guaranteed that we go CB or WR in round 1.
I can't point any finger on it and haven't read anything about it but I think the Jets really want Dee Ford and would consider trading down a little to get him and an extra 2nd. I think he is a beast and while OLB isn't our greatest need, an outside pass rushing demon makes it easier on our DB's.
Posted 4 May 2014Way to go out on a limb with your first 2 picks.
Tell me, what's the difference between ODB, Cooks, Lee, Allen Robinson and Jordan Matthews? STFU because you can't. It makes zero sense to draft one of the 5 at 18 because all 5 will be on the board and each of them can develop and be as good as the other. There's such a logjam at WR this draft that, compounded with the fact that we just snagged the best WR in FA, we will absolutely not draft a WR at 18 (unless the unthinkable happens and Evans falls). We're either going to trade back and then draft one or we're going to go with Ebron/Dennard/OLB.
I think the best pick for us would be Dee Ford or Darqueze Denard. I know it sounds silly to take an OLB instead of WR or TE. I think the draft is deep enough for us to get a WR in the second round (Robinson - both, Adams, Matthews, Landry, Bryant, etc.)and a TE in the third (Fedorowicz or if we are lucky Nicklas).
Ford is a beast and with our D-Line being as young but really good as it is and with Coples, Davis, Harris as the other LB's we could rush the QB unmercifully.
I would then look to trade for Josephs by offering our 4th round picks for him.
O-Line and CB we have to get lucky with the remaining picks (1- 4th, 1 - 5th, 4 - 6th's).
Posted 4 Apr 2014Fair enough, but what about our young QB? assuming he beats out vick then we need to give him people to throw to. If lets say vick starts for us, then we would be in a "win now" mode and you'd want him to have weapons if your gonna try and make a push.
Honestly Qb was our biggets issue last year. geno did some good things, but he also lost us some games. If vick can have a monster year like his 1st year when he came back, there is no reason we couldn't compete
I know this will not be popular but if Bortles, Manziel or Bridgewater is available when we draft at 18 we should grab one. This game today is a QB game. One franchise QB is worth 10 years of playoffs. If anyone out there believes Geno is the guy then God Bless You. I don't say he isn't but for sure I don't have any confidence that he is. WR's are very very deep and we can get one in round 2. True, our TE situation sucks but maybe one can be gotten in later rounds. I would love Manziel or Bortles. I don't think they will be around but you never know. If not then Beckham or Cooks would be great but I would try and trade down and take Jace Amaro who I believe will be better than Ebron.
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