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azjetfan Icon : (23 December 2014 - 11:58 PM) I think the D Ryan plays makes it hard for some to get in.
azjetfan Icon : (23 December 2014 - 11:58 PM) Guys like Wilks and Rich move around alot
santana Icon : (23 December 2014 - 11:59 PM) media wasnt exactly praising the jets at any point either
santana Icon : (23 December 2014 - 11:59 PM) it was fairly negative throughout the year
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:00 AM) Yea. The PB is a popularity contest.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 12:00 AM) Consideri g what the D had to do to protect that secondary it's impressive they did as well as they did.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:01 AM) You might want to re-read my post and change your comment AZ
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:01 AM) All of his sucess was before the slalry cap
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:01 AM) salary
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:02 AM) I hope the jets sit some players this week
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 AM) I don't want to see mangold or anyone really get injured
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 AM) injury list is getting long
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 AM) From 1965- 1985 the Cowboys never had a losing season. Thats the kind of impact no salary cap had for the rich teams
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:06 AM) for more research see ny yankees
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:15 AM) I hear you and MLB still doesnt have a salary cap. Just luxry tax
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 AM) luxury
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 12:41 AM) And speaking of no salary cap that`s why the Yankees are the 4th richest team in all of pro sports in the world so they can buy any player they want with no salary cap in place. The other top three richest teams are European soccer teams
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:56 AM) hala madrid
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:58 AM) How many times have the Yankees won the World Series in the last 10 years? Once?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 01:01 AM) 07 wasnt it
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 01:02 AM) 09
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 01:10 AM) lack of OBJ on this probowl list
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:58 AM) There's a significant lack of Favre, too
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:59 AM) Also a lack of Raul
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:59 AM) HALA RAUL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:38 AM) Richardson and Wilkerson are both better than Kyle Williams
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:00 PM) So Ron Wolf is also coming on board to "consult"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:00 PM) At least we are getting FOOTBALL minds
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:01 PM) and not pencil fuckin pushers
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:01 PM) BTW f*** Christmas
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:11 PM) Oh good evening to you too
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:13 PM) LOL @ 03
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:14 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:18 PM) FIRE WOLF
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:19 PM) FIRE CASSERLY
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 09:29 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:34 PM) Hahaha
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:07 PM) LMAO
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:12 PM) FIRE GLAT
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) @jetswhispers · 1h 1 hour ago
I drove past the stadium today, and the towel billboard was still up. Why does the "Fire Idzik" movement want Glat fired? Does anyone know.
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:18 PM) f*** Christmas!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:19 PM) bah humbug
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) Fire Christmas!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:42 PM) Rex Ryan is #2 on NFL.com's top 10 coaching candidates
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 02:36 PM) f*** Rex Ryan f*** John Idzik f*** Geno f*** Woody Johnson and f*** CHRISTMAS!!!!
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  1. In Topic: Woody Hiring Charley Casserly As Consultant

    Posted 24 Dec 2014

    View Postjetfan4life12, on 24 December 2014 - 12:03 AM, said:

    I like this even better if Ron Wolf is included. It's obvious Woody knows nothing about football so bringing in these career NFL executives to identify the new GM, President, etc. is a smart move. Rex Ryan didn't deserve to be judged by the record of a bad team.

    I'm Not sure I agree after re-reading your post.Hiring a guy that did everything before the salary cap and is pretty much shit almost every year after the cap. There is a reason he was working for NFL Network and not a gm on a team since 2006. I dont get this hire at all.Plenty of failed coaches, executives, players etc. working for sporting networks.Talking sports and sporting news is a big difference from running a team.
  2. In Topic: Woody Hiring Charley Casserly As Consultant

    Posted 23 Dec 2014

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    Charley Casserly
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Charley Casserly (born c. 1948)[1] is an American football sportscaster and former executive. Casserly was the general manager of the National Football League's Washington Redskins from 1989 to 1999. He served as Senior Vice President & General Manager, Football Operations, for the Houston Texans from 2000 to 2006. He currently works for NFL Network.


    Morons.....The Texans didn't even exist until 2002 as an expansion team.

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    1999 NFL Washington Redskins* 10 6 0 Lost Div 443 377 66 Turner Johnson Johnson Davis Westbrook 2 2 24 30 4 8 11 31 4.1 -1.2 2.9 6.8 -3.9
    1998 NFL Washington Redskins 6 10 0 319 421 -102 Turner Green Green Allen Westbrook 17 15 28 24 24 27 19 30 -6.4 -1.1 -7.5 -1.5 -6.0
    1997 NFL Washington Redskins 8 7 1 327 289 38 Turner Dishman Frerotte Allen Shepherd 15 16 8 16 14 11 13 30 2.4 -1.1 1.3 -0.6 1.8
    1996 NFL Washington Redskins 9 7 0 364 312 52 Turner Frerotte Frerotte Allen Ellard 8 9 13 28 4 8 23 30 3.3 -1.4 1.8 2.3 -0.4
    1995 NFL Washington Redskins 6 10 0 326 359 -33 Turner Harvey Frerotte Allen Ellard 18 18 21 18 6 21 18 30 -2.1 0.1 -1.9 -0.8 -1.2
    1994 NFL Washington Redskins 3 13 0 320 412 -92 Turner Ellard Shuler Ervins Ellard 13 17 28 26 27 25 27 28 -5.8 -0.3 -6.1 0.3 -6.4
    1993 NFL Washington Redskins 4 12 0 230 345 -115 Petitbon Brooks Rypien Brooks Sanders 25 26 23 26 14 24 28 28 -7.2 0.7 -6.5 -3.8 -2.7
    1992 NFL Washington Redskins* 9 7 0 Lost Div 300 255 45 Gibbs Marshall Rypien Byner Clark 14 12 8 7 3 12 9 28 2.8 1.6 4.4 0.7 3.8
    1991 NFL Washington Redskins* 14 2 0 Won SB 485 224 261 Gibbs Clark Rypien Byner Clark 1 4 2 3 1 1 1 28 16.3 0.3 16.6 11.7 4.9
    1990 NFL Washington Redskins* 10 6 0 Lost Div 381 301 80 Gibbs Lachey Rypien Byner Clark 4 4 13 14 6 8 4 28 5.0 0.4 5.4 4.6 0.8
    1989 NFL Washington Redskins 10 6 0 386 308 78 Gibbs Lachey Rypien Riggs Clark 5 2 13 9 12 9 2 28 4.9 -0.9 4.0 3.8 0.2


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    2006 NFL Houston Texans 6 10 0 267 366 -99 Kubiak Johnson Carr Dayne Johnson 28 28 25 24 21 28 28 32 -6.2 1.7 -4.5 -3.2 -1.3
    2005 NFL Houston Texans 2 14 0 260 431 -171 Capers Williams Carr Williams Johnson 26 30 32 31 25 31 31 32 -10.7 0.7 -10.0 -4.4 -5.7
    2004 NFL Houston Texans 7 9 0 309 339 -30 Capers Williams Carr Williams Johnson 21 19 15 23 13 20 22 32 -1.9 1.2 -0.6 -2.4 1.8
    2003 NFL Houston Texans 5 11 0 255 380 -125 Capers Williams Carr Williams Johnson 28 31 27 31 25 29 32 32 -7.8 1.9 -6.0 -4.4 -1.5
    2002 NFL Houston Texans 4 12 0 213 356 -143 Capers Walker Carr Wells Bradford 32 32 20 16 26 29 32 32 -8.9 -0.5 -9.4 -8.4 -1.1


    After looking at this Other than the one Superbowl win this isn't a very good resume. I'm not liking this Charley Casserole guy at all.Seems like a terrible move.Looks even worse than Tanne was.Look what the Jets did with Tanne in 7 years. Almost the same as this Casserly guy accomplished in 16

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    New York Jets

    Tannenbaum was hired by the New York Jets on February 19, 1997 as the Director of Player Contract Negotiations.[1] Over the years, Tannenbaum served in numerous administrative positions with the team including Senior Vice President of Football Operations and Assistant General Manager.

    Tannenbaum succeeded Terry Bradway as the team's new general manager in 2006.[4][5]

    Tannenbaum signed a contract extension with the team through 2014.[6]

    Following the last game of the 2012 NFL regular season, Jets owner Woody Johnson announced that Tannenbaum would not return for the 2013 season.[7]


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    2012 NFL New York Jets 6 10 0 281 375 -94 Ryan Wilkerson Sanchez Greene Kerley 28 30 20 8 29 26 23 32 -5.9 -0.0 -5.9 -5.1 -0.9
    2011 NFL New York Jets 8 8 0 377 363 14 Ryan Revis Sanchez Greene Keller 13 25 20 5 19 15 15 32 0.9 0.0 0.9 1.2 -0.3
    2010 NFL New York Jets* 11 5 0 Lost Conf 367 304 63 Ryan Revis Sanchez Tomlinson Edwards 13 11 6 3 5 8 6 32 3.9 2.5 6.5 2.2 4.2
    2009 NFL New York Jets* 9 7 0 Lost Conf 348 236 112 Ryan Revis Sanchez Jones Cotchery 17 20 1 1 16 7 5 32 7.0 1.6 8.6 1.1 7.5
    2008 NFL New York Jets 9 7 0 405 356 49 Mangini Faneca Favre Jones Cotchery 9 16 18 16 19 12 20 32 3.1 -2.8 0.2 2.2 -1.9
    2007 NFL New York Jets 4 12 0 268 355 -87 Mangini Cotchery Pennington Jones Cotchery 25 26 19 18 20 22 22 32 -5.4 1.7 -3.7 -4.0 0.3
    2006 NFL New York Jets* 10 6 0 Lost WC 316 295 21 Mangini Pennington Pennington Washington Coles 18 25 6 20 17 12 22 32 1.3 0.7 2.0 0.4 1.7


    View PostMikeGangGreenFan2, on 22 December 2014 - 11:53 PM, said:

    Also his last draft in 06 was good

    1 1 Mario Williams
    2 33 DeMeco Ryans
    3 66 Eric Winston
    4 98 Owen Daniels

    good players


    Maybe so but look at their records the next 4 seasons.So yeah I say this guy is a bad hire just looking at the team records during his 16 year tenor and afterwards if you count the 2006 draft you mentioned.

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    2010 NFL Houston Texans 6 10 0 390 427 -37 Kubiak Foster Schaub Foster Johnson 9 3 29 30 13 18 13 32 -2.3 0.5 -1.8 1.8 -3.7
    2009 NFL Houston Texans 9 7 0 388 333 55 Kubiak Schaub Schaub Slaton Johnson 10 4 17 13 19 11 7 32 3.4 -1.5 2.0 2.7 -0.7
    2008 NFL Houston Texans 8 8 0 366 394 -28 Kubiak Johnson Schaub Slaton Johnson 17 3 27 22 29 21 8 32 -1.8 1.4 -0.4 2.8 -3.2
    2007 NFL Houston Texans 8 8 0 379 384 -5 Kubiak Ryans Schaub Dayne Johnson 12 14 22 24 31 17 21 32 -0.3 0.3 0.0 2.5 -2.5


    Oh and if you wan to get more technical 3 of the Redskins 4 playoff appearances (which includes their Superbowl win were before the salary cap was implemented in 1994. I was always suspect of whether Gibbs was a good coach or not because of his success with no salary cap. The when he came back to to the Redskins with the salary cap in place Gibbs didn't fair near as well record wise.So basically Casserly had all his success before the salary cap was put in place when the richest teams bought the best players. So no I dont like this guy at all and think its going to turn out bad if he is hired. The salary cap changed things for a lot of teams The Redskins have never been the same team since the salary cap. Nor have the Cowboys. The Cowboys managed to do well three years into the salary cap before they went down hill then they fell hard too.

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    2007 NFL Washington Redskins* 9 7 0 Lost WC 334 310 24 Gibbs Portis Campbell Portis Moss 18 15 11 8 21 12 9 32 1.5 3.0 4.5 0.2 4.3
    2006 NFL Washington Redskins 5 11 0 307 376 -69 Gibbs Betts Brunell Betts Moss 20 13 27 31 23 24 23 32 -4.3 0.3 -4.0 -2.1 -2.0
    2005 NFL Washington Redskins* 10 6 0 Lost Div 359 293 66 Gibbs Moss Brunell Portis Moss 13 11 9 9 14 11 9 32 4.1 1.9 6.0 2.6 3.4
    2004 NFL Washington Redskins 6 10 0 240 265 -25 Gibbs Washington Ramsey Portis Coles 31 30 5 3 20 19 14 32 -1.6 -1.8 -3.4 -7.4 4.0


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    The significance of these changes was not lost upon the cadre of reporters covering the league. The attention they generated, in fact, deflected scrutiny from the other major issue of the 1994 offseason: the newly implemented salary cap of $34.6 million. (In 2014, the salary cap is $133 million.) Fans today may find it difficult to imagine professional football without a salary cap—understanding the cap implications of free agent signings has become a secondary source of entertainment for diehard NFL enthusiasts. But in 1994, the salary cap was a strange new invention, one that led several teams to hire dedicated “capologists” to crunch the necessary numbers. Even so, the transition to the salary cap era was a source of much anxiety. To clear cap space, the New York Giants dumped quarterback Phil Simms just four seasons after he’d led them to a Super Bowl victory, and the Houston Oilers traded Warren Moon after one of the team’s best seasons. As the season approached, Sports Illustrated wrote that it was “time for Tagliabue and the players’ union to admit that the cap can cripple teams.”
  3. In Topic: Updated 2015 Draft Order End Week 16

    Posted 23 Dec 2014

    View PostJetsfan115, on 22 December 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

    6. Washington (4-11, .476)
    5. Raiders (3-12, .563)
    4. Jets (3-12, .554)
    3. Jaguars (3-12, .511)
    2. Bucs (2-13, .489)
    1. Titans (2-13, .484)

    So from this, no way we can move into the top 2. and sadly both the top 2 could take QBs leaving us with our dicks in our hands at 3, unless we can trade up to one of them. We can move into the 3 spot if we lose and jax wins in week 17 but if we win and Oakland and Washington lose, we would slide back into 5th or 6th depending on SOS

    What a major dickhead. I've been updating my draft update thread multiple times a week for weeks and you disrespect it by making a total piece of shit no content thread. I dont like going off the wall
    like this but its a total bitch move on your part.

    And for the record the schedule strengths change from week to week and the revised schedule strengths aren't even released until Tuesdays because of a lot of computations take place so changes are made on Tuesdays after the schedule strengths are computed. Corrections cant be made until then.

    But you decided to be a total dickhead head instead of respecting the time Ive been putting into the draft update for weeks with lots of content and full listing of draft rules and links to the draft rules........fuckoff.
  4. In Topic: Coaching Candidates On The Jets' Radar

    Posted 19 Dec 2014

    Honestly I dont see how hiring Harbaugh would make a difference. Rex had the team to two conference Championship games with one of the worst qb`s ever drafted.If we had an average qb Rex would most likely have one or two rings on his finger and trophies in the case.

    Another tough coach isn't going to make a difference without the the talent on the field. Rex pumps these guys up and the players have said many times they feel like running through a brick wall for him. Harbaugh is the same style of coach as far as intensity.

    This team had talent everywhere in 2009 and 2010 except maybe a true #1 receiver and an awful qb. If the team fires Rex so be it but what is really needed is a damn scouting team that actually knows how to spot the right players to pick up in drafts and from other teams in trades. The org can Fire the head coach or all the coaches and the gm but the scouting department team does most of the work of looking for the talent. That`s the most important thing this team needs.

    The GM might make the final decisions on picks and contracts but the gm is more of an office guy making decisions and doing lots of paperwork. The GM and the Head coaches are the faces of the team but the scouting department actually goes to teams practices,games,gets film, pictures, and does most of the studying. The gm relies on his scouting team to narrow most of the players they have in mind. The coaches only take who they are given and its up to them to train the players they are given.

    I dont care if the team hires coaches with the greatness of Gregg Popovich or Phil Jackson in th end its up to the scouting team to pick up the best players. Phil Jackson was lucky enough to have two of the greatest players ever in the NBA but anyone here that is an NBA fan saw what happened in L.A. when the Lakers started bringing in has-beens and drafting terrible players. Even he couldn't do anything with the team and the Lakers sucked and he retired.


    Heck who knows if Dungy would've been any good without Peyton Manning.

    Anyway everyone always looks at the faces of the org. The head coach and the gm. I just think for the Jets to ever do well the organization needs to find some proven scouting people and pay them a lot of money to come here. I'm guessing the gm is in charge of hiring the scouting department too but not positive on that. Its just the way I see it the teams that continue to constantly have winning seasons nearly every decade have solid scouting departments. The head coach gets the glory and the gm gets some too. The gm`s main job is keeping a good team together and keeping players happy so they stay or convince them to take paycuts to stay in a winning organization but the scouts do most of the work in looking for the right players. Not the gm or the head coaches.

    Sure the gm and head coaches can spend some time in the off season looking at the players the scouts bring to them as potential options but all year round the scouts are watching players train and practice and play. I think the scouts are the real back bone of the organization. If the scouts just bring in shit info on nothing but shit players thats all the gm and coaches have to go in.

    If Idzik isn't capable of hiring stellar scouts then get rid of him. If Rex is incapable of being a head coach then get rid of him but if we do the whole fo needs to go to and hire someone who knows how to select scouts.Thats the only way this team will ever become a constantly successful organization.

    Take the Steelers for instance. The coaches get the credit but I guarantee you the team has amazing scouts because the team rarely has a losing season in their franchise history. Same with the 49`rs and Denver. Before the salary cap was put into affect it was all about who had the most money but now these teams are still usually successful. Heck before the salary cap the Cowboys never had a losing season until 1986 and even after the salary cap even though they aren't as dominant as they used to be they are still pretty good most years. The head coaches and gm`s change on all these teams I mentioned and yet they continue to succeed with the salary cap.

    Scouts I tell you Scouts.....


    All starts with the scouts.
  5. In Topic: Jets' Richardson: I'm On Same Level As Watt

    Posted 19 Dec 2014

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