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Posted 7 Oct 2014I have not been able to watch all the games this season, but there is a huge issue that I have with the Jets.
This issue, I think is a problem that we have had and for some reason, no matter who the f***ing OC is, cant figure it out. Why do we go out and pick up Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory and not use them? Geno is in his second year and is really struggleing. We have attemtped at least 160 passes and 145 rushes (not accurate, 28 are Geno Smith or Vick runs). What talented OC in the NFL does not go back to the run more? I would love to see maybe 4-5 straight runs to start a game off, then maybe a deep pass or something simple to help Geno get in the groove?! But hell, thats why I am posting on a board, not a NFL coach, lol.
I will say, staying up to 2 AM to watch the Jets get embarrased is going to be something I wont do anymore...lol
Your point is well noted but when the Jets possibly have the worst combination of corners (as a whole) in the league and they face 6 of the best qb`s in the league the first 7 weeks and can pass the ball on the Jets while holding and eating a sandwich in the other hand its pretty hard to just keep running the ball all game.
And by the way the Jets are running the ball. The Jets are ranked 3rd in the league in rushing after 5 weeks which is the lowest they have been ranked in rushing this year.
Posted 6 Oct 2014I believe that if Mark Sanchez was drafted by another team he would be A good QB. 49ers, Packers, etc... Rex does not have the ability to develop offensive talent. I don't disagree with the rest of your statement. I agree we have a serious talent issue. I have been a Rex defender the whole time but as much as I like him I just think he is more of a liability than a benefit.
You are delusional. Sanchez had the #1 defense, #1 corner, #1 o-line, #1 running game and decent enough receivers for two years. Most of the time when a good qb is drafted to a good team he usually does well pretty fast. Sanchez had everything he needed for two years. I dont ever remember one team being number one in all these areas ever in the history of the game like Sanchez had for two years. Sanchez has utterly horrible accuracy. He cant read, defenses, and even in the AFC Championship years they literally had to dumb down the offense for him. One thing you cant make a qb better at is accuracy. Maybe a few tweaks here and there but if a qb has terrible accuracy its always going to be terrible.
Sanchez accuracy was so bad even in our AFC Championship years he led the league in dropped interceptions for like both years not to mention the fumbles and the interceptions themselves. The guy is a preseason hero and will never do well as a starter period. If he hasn't got the game down by now he never will. Maybe I should list all the qbs that came in since Sanchez was drafted and started and have done well right off the bat.
You fail to grasp that no one even wanted Sanchez even after he was released except a team where he had absolutely zero chance of starting. The only reason the Rams wanted him later was because Bradford went down and they didn't have any good options.
You can think what you want but like I said before if the entire league that dedicate their lives to the game didn't want Sanchez as their qb even like 8 teams that desperately need a qb then they are positive Sanchez is terrible. I dont know if you are just biased because he was a Jet or if you think he led the team to the two AFC Championships (which he didn't) The running game and defense saved his ass all year both years. Maybe you saw what he did in the preseason like with the Eagles this year and think he is good.....I dont know. Sanchez has pretty much always look pretty good in the preseason.
I just dont get it and those who think like you. If Sanchez couldn't look good on a team that was the best in the league for two straight yeas is so many areas what makes you think he is suddenly going to be able to be good now?
Qb`s like Wilson, Luck, Foles, Kap, etc....... came into their starting roles and are able to think on the fly when the play breaks down. Sanchez could never do that that and never will If the play breaks down Sanchez is lost on what to do. He has zero ability to scramble in the pocket and try to make a play out of a broken play and either pass or run. When the play breaks down Sanchez takes a sack,throws an int, or a pick 6, or fumbles the ball.
There have been far to many qb`s come into the league since Sanchez was drafted and look good with less than what Sanchez had. The guy sucks period.
I challenge you to find one starting qb in the MODERN NFL era with a below 50% completion percentage every year he started that was ever considered good. If you find even one then I will be amazed.
Posted 6 Oct 2014Honestly since this is a rebuilding year Id much rather the Jets hold off on trading for corners or receivers.
Think about it. The core of every team are three main areas. The qb...obviously. The other two are the o-line and d-line.
The Jets have a good solid d-line. Still lead the league in sack by 2 with 14 sacks.
The o-line is the biggest issue right now. Two of the games the Jets lost were close and should have won. But Geno is under tremendous pressure with the Jets o-line ranked 27th in the league(posted a link about o-line rankings in another thread) its unrealistic to expect him to play well. Geno is tied for 8th or 9th in sacks last I checked and I think he is 6th in qb hits.
If the Jets do any trading this year Id much rather they trade for some good o-line players to relieve the pressure off of Geno and maybe then the offense will have a better chance of moving the ball and scoring more.
The receivers aren't the best but they aren't the worst we can live with them for now. As far as the corners we basically need three corners and that's unrealistic during the season. Id much rather address the corner and receiver issues in the off season and fix part of the core of the team.....the o-line.
I dont care if you have the best receivers in the league unless you can protect the qb (or you have a HOF type qb with an amazing quick release and rocket arm with amazing accuracy to make up for o-line problems) you arent going to move the ball if the qb is under constant pressure and getting hit a lot.
Posted 6 Oct 2014Lets look at Rex,
- He has been given 2 high picked QBs and failed to make them into anything.
- He has probably the best defensive mind in the league and also the worst offensive.
- He has failed to create any offensive talent
I have to disagree with your statement. Rex has been stated to many times to get one choice of a draft pick every year. But Ultimately Rex Ryan is a defense guy and its the job of the scouting department and the gm to make the draft picks not the head coach. Some head coaches might have some influence in the drafts but their job is to whip the team into game shape and to game plan. They sure as heck dont go to games and scout players. That`s the gm`s his scouting teams job.
If you think he doesn't have the team prepared for game day that's one thing but its not the coaches job to draft players. If Rex was head coach and gm too then Id agree with you. Ultimately if the gm`s are giving a head coach to much influence in the draft then they aren't a good gm. The way I see it Tanny and his sh*tty scouting staff screwed this team over. The coaches head coaches job is to work with the players he has on the field. Do you ever look at the eyes of most of the head coaches in the NFL? Its easy to tell how little sleep they get. Severe wrinkles around the eyes and huge dark bags under the eyes from lack of sleep. They seriously have no time for scouting. They dont get enough sleep as it is just working with the players on the roster.
If Rex was doing all the drafting himself we wouldn't need a gm would we? The fact is whether Rex had hardly any influence in the draft picks or a lot its ultimately the gm`s fault because its the gm`s job to find the right players not the head coach. I dont care if you had all the best coaches in every area of the team.....if the coaches are given sub par players the chances of the team doing well are very slim.
Check this link out to break it down for you. The coaches are to busy with the teams on the roster to have time to scout and pick the right elite players from college. This page site listings percentages says it all. It basically shows if you have a sh*tty scouting staff and a bad gm no matter how good or bad your coach is the team wont do well.
In closing maybe Rex is the right man for the job and maybe he isn't but I will say this and Im 99.9% sure that if the Jets had even an NFL average qb during the two AFC Championship appearances instead of the Jets having one of the worst starting qb`s statistically in the history of the current NFL era the Jets would have had one if not two Superbowl wins. Sanchez had pretty much the best of everything around him for two years on offense and defense. He never regressed like some people try to say he did. Sanchez never progressed and once he didnt have the best of everything around him all his major flaws were easily seen. His stats every year speak volumes. No qb in the modern era with an under 50% completion percentage ever is considered a good qb. Yet Sanchez was under 50% for 4 years straight with the NFL average being 60%
- He has been given 2 high picked QBs and failed to make them into anything.
Posted 5 Oct 2014Everyone is winning and wants an instant fix. Two years ago this team was a total cluster f*ck.
We still have some of Sanchez`s salary on the team this year for one.
And to everyone that is whining its nearly impossible to build a team that was terrible in pretty much every area of the game in only one year. This is the second year of rebuilding mode. Last year everyone understood that it was the first year of rebuilding mode. This year is the second. When teams rebuild it generally takes 3 to 4 years to rebuild but for some reason everyone expects it only after one year here.
Yet everyone seems to have been hit with the stupid stick this year and expect every single problem area to be fixed in only one season. Its unrealistic. Geno may not be the answer but this team only needs to fix a few other areas to be a good team. We need a true #1 receiver because we have a bunch of #2 receivers but no true #1. We need Corners and to fix the offensive line. You cant expect the qbs to have great games when they are constantly under pressure Before this week Geno was tied for tenth in sacks and if I could find a place that listed qb`s under pressure and qb hits Im quite sure he would rank in the top 5.
I say chill the f*ck out. The team has money to spend and if the Jets can keep the good core young players together in 2015 Im pretty sure the Jets will be able to go after some good corners and a #1 receiver and maybe fix the issues in the offensive line.
I mean hell The Jets are among the league leaders in sacks and rushing defense though Im sure they dropped from #1 this week and was #2 in offensive rushing before this week. Might drop a little not sure. But still that shows some huge progress from last year and a huge step forward. If the Jets can fix the few areas that need fixing for 2015 I think they can very well be a very good playoff team in 2015. The core is there.
If all you see is the negatives and dont see what great strides the team has taken this year then I dont know what else I can say.
Here I found and advanced offensive stat site that makes my point.
It has qb hits and shows how bad the Jets are when passing with Geno under pressure. Geno is not getting protected. Jets ranked 27th offensive line.
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