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Posted 14 Feb 2015how do you get produces like a 4th string? when he's on the field he produces and more importantly for us, he is a playmaker. he returns, runs and catches the ball. His only issue is that he can't stay healthy
Here is my issue with keeping him. If we find a decent qb then keep him.
If we cant find a decent qb there is no point in paying a high cost receiver with crappy qb`s
We could have could have Calvin Johnson on the team but if you dont have a decent qb he would be double or triple covered and the team still wont win. We need at least a legit average qb at minimum before this team even should think of paying a high cost receiver. Id rather take my chances with receivers in the draft.
If the team can get Cutler then Im all for keeping Harvin
QuoteJay Cutler trade should interest many, but sane for only a few
Fact: The Bears benching Jay Cutler in favor of another JC, Jimmy Clausen, isn’t a good a sign for Cutler’s future as Chicago's starting quarterback. Fact: There are a lot of QB-needy teams that should at think about trading for Cutler ... if the price is right for them.
Cutler's salary beyond 2014, with a guarantee of $15.5 million in 2015, isn't too crazy considering the going rate for such quarterbacks. The Bears also should be willing to part with him for less than a second-round pick to get their own pricey whiff off the books.
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We can count 10 teams that at least need to look at the possibility, some for much longer than others.
Titans: Coach Ken Whisenhunt has some history of being a quarterback whisperer and resurrector with Kurt Warner and Philip Rivers. Cutler played college ball in Nashville (at Vanderbilt). The Titans need to get on the map as an NFL team with an ownership ahead, and Cutler's big arm and mobility would suit what Whiz wants to do. Sanity scale (from 1-10): 8
Browns: Before he got his rep as a coach killer, Cutler had a huge fan in Mike Shanahan in Denver. Shanahan knew how to use him: More efficient West Coast passing playing off a strong running game. Cleveland’s offensive coordinator, of course, is Shanahan’s son Kyle. Plus Brian Hoyer is a free agent out the door and Johnny Manziel is, well, we’ll see. Sanity scale: 7
Jets: Geno Smith and Michael Vick form a fine mess, and the Jets are positioned away from landing Marcus Mariota in the draft. A new coach is on his way, and he’s bound to be somebody to who wants to make their passing game relevant again. Then again, they’ve already been down this talented-but-turnover-happy mode with Mark Sanchez. Sanity scale: 6
Bills: Cutler and current Buffalo starter Kyle Orton were traded for each other. Orton is signed through 2015, but his contract is voidable. As OK as Orton has been helping the Bills win games, he's not the guy to make them a playoff team. Given Buffalo's defensive prowess and some talented young receivers, Cutler has potential to get it there, but it's a boom-or-bust feeling again. Sanity scale: 5
Redskins: Looks like one Jay — Gruden — is staying, so you can't rule another Jay from coming in and looking much better than whatever Gruden's quarterback thing is with Robert Griffiin III, Colt McCoy and Kirk Cousins. On paper, Cutler seems to be a schematic fit. But Washington has a bad history of costly choices with veterans (see Albert Haynesworth) and needs to think more about a full rebuild. Sanity scale: 4
Raiders: Derek Carr has had some promising moments with this regime, but with a change at general manager and coach coming, there's no guarantee the Raiders just accept him as the QB of the future. Cutler seems to fit the part of an outlaw gunslinger in Oakland — think Jeff George again, but then think twice. Sanity scale: 3
Texans: Bill O’Brien is on his fourth quarterback in his first season. Given Houston's success with its running game and a J.J. Watt-led defense to get it to 7-7, a QB such as Cutler seems like the missing piece to make a run in the still-weak AFC South next season. With O'Brien being a guy who works closely with the passer (used to Tom Brady), this doesn't feel good. Sanity scale: 2
Rams: Shaun Hill and Austin Davis have been flimsy duct tape, and Sam Bradford is a botched investment. So yeah, the Rams still have the feel of a playoff team "if they only had a quarterback." Jeff Fisher, however, doesn't like drama and already went through it with another 2006 first-rounder, Vince Young. Sanity scale: 1
Cardinals: They don't know about Carson Palmer for next season, and Drew Stanton, Logan Thomas and Ryan Lindley aren't answers. But this is a close-knit team with a great locker room, and Cutler lacks the fire Bruce Arians needs to mesh. Heck no. Sanity scale: 0
Buccaneers: The Bears coddling Cutler is the reason Lovie Smith is no longer in Chicago. A redemption reunion sounds good in theory, but awful in practice. Oh yeah — and they're starting at the No. 1 pick and can't-miss Marcus Mariota. No way, Tampa Bay. Sanity scale: -5
Posted 12 Feb 2015This is what I mean when I always talk about the scouting department being the the most important part of the front office. The Giants are a huge example of this. They always have some of the best receivers in the league as well as good running backs. Fans blame the head coaches way to much. I agree with blaming the GM though because part of his job is hiring a reliable scouting department. The Gm and head coach dont go to games and they only study the information on players they are given buy the scouts that go to games and actually do the homework on players. The Patriots are another team. While Brady is the main part of the team the Patriots almost always have a great offensive line and they rarely have bad corners and they always seem to find players like Wilfork.
While the corners aren't as big a deal as having a monster like Wilfork and having a stellar offensive line to protect a great qb I'm sure you guys get my point.
That`s why I keep harping about how the scouting department is probably the most important part to any NFL team. IF you have crappy scouts the gm and others involved in the drafts will almost never draft the right players because the information on players given to them is generally wrong.
Posted 7 Feb 2015I think I'll pass on reminiscing about the good old days by signing two CBs who will be 30 and 31 respectively next season. I would rather sign one of two and get Byron Maxwell. Who knows how good Milliner is going to be coming off his injury. I would be okay with giving Maxwell a long term contract, signing Cro for a year, and hoping Milliner is healthy.
Yeah I hear you on "the good old days". ........the good old days when this team had pretty much the best of everything except for a reliable qb. WTF would bring two decent corners back with a high salary cap with them and a declining offensive line and no decent qb. Id say another season like 2014.
No fuckin thank you.
Posted 7 Feb 2015Even without constantly reading about Mariota`a terrible accuracy, poor pocket presence and ability to read defenses common sense says if non of the other teams above the Jets that could use a qb dont want him then dont take him.
Stupid move if we do. He would be getting first round pay and he isnt worth a first round pick. More like a third.
Winston .....maybe Id roll the dice on him.
Posted 4 Feb 2015Let the Bills have him.
To expensive.oline and qb way bigger Priority.
Manning won 12 games almost every year with the Colts with a bad defense pretty much every year and in 2014 having a #1 corner on the team didn't even get them to the Superbowl. Revis is the least of our needs. You can get by with average to slightly above average corners as long as you have good safeties for a far better price tag than Revis cost.
Revis or no Revis we aren't going anywhere without a franchise qb and solid oline.
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