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Posted 1 Jan 2016Alright so Denver pulled out the win which makes everything much more clear
1) NE 13-2
2) Den 11-4 (tie breaker because head to head)
3) Cincy 11-4
4) Hou 8-7
5) KC 10-5
6) NYJ 10-5
Seeding is still up in the air.
NE has clinched the 1 seed and doesn't need to play their starters this week
Actually that is wrong. The Patriots have to win to get the #1 seed if they lose Denver can get the #1 seed
I wish it was the case. I screwed myself in ESPN Fantasy in the Bowl by being a dumbass and benching Marshall for Ginn and Hightower for Artis-Payne. So instead of being up 4 with a much better team I'm down 43 and will probably lose. Hopefully Brady sits early since my cousin has him. I even had Palmer and Johnson get taken out of the game against the Packers because of them blowing out the Packers. I need a miracle to come back now.
The Patriots are set up for another nice playoff run as they just need to win at Miami (or lose and have the Broncos lose/tie) to claim the No. 1 seed and home-field advantage. New England is assured of at least the No. 2 seed.
Denver is now the only team that can take the No. 1 seed from the Patriots after their thrilling OT win over the Bengals on Monday night. If the Broncos win and the Patriots lose, the Broncos win the No. 1 seed regardless of what Cincinnati does as Denver has beaten both teams head-to-head this year.
But first things first for the Broncos as they still have to win their division with either a win/tie against the Chargers or a Chiefs' loss/tie at home to Oakland. If they can accomplish that with a win, they will at least be a No. 2 seed, but can also claim the No. 2 seed with a loss and losses by the Chiefs and the Bengals.
Speaking of the Bengals, they hurt their seeding chances mightily with the loss at Denver but have already claimed the AFC North title and can grab a No. 2seed with a win and Denver loss. Even if the Bengals lose, they would be the No. 2 seed with a Denver loss and a Kansas City win as that would make the Chiefs the AFC West champs and the Bengals beat the Chiefs head-to-head back on Week 4.
The Chiefs are in the playoffs as either a No. 3, No. 5 or No. 6 seed with the No. 5 seed in their control with a win at home against Oakland. They claim the AFC West title with a win and Broncos loss ... and can also get the fifth seed with a Jets loss (or both the Chiefs and Jets tie). A No. 5 seed would see the Chiefs travel to either Houston or Indianapolis on Wild Card Weekend.
The Jets are currently the No. 6 seed and control their own fate for that seed but have not secured a playoff spot yet. The only thing that can keep them from that is a loss at Buffalo and a Steelers win at Cleveland. Jets fans should be nervous ... and I know many that will certainly be come Sunday. The Jets can also be the No. 5 seed and play at either Houston or Indy on Wild Card Weekend (seems better than at Denver, Cincinnati or Kansas City) if they end up with a better record than the Chiefs OR if the Jets win and Denver loses.
Pittsburgh is on the outside looking in for the playoffs after their tough loss to Baltimore in week 16. The Steelers can only claim a No. 6 seed and travel to the No. 3 seed on Wild Card Weekend with a win at Cleveland and a Jets loss at Buffalo.
Now we come to the fun that is the race for the AFC South crown. The Texans could have clinched a strength of victory (SOV) tiebreaker over the Colts with a Bengals win on Monday night, but it was not to be. The AFC South champion will be the No. 4 seed and will host either the Chiefs, Jets or Broncos (in that likelihood order) on Wild Card Weekend.
If Houston loses and Indianapolis wins, they will tie on overall record, split head-to-head and tie on conference record (6-6 each) and record against common opponents (6-6 each). Next tiebreaker is strength of victory (SOV) or better described as the combined records of the teams you've beaten. In the case of the Texans and Colts, they have three teams each that are non-common wins between them ... the Texans have the Bengals, Jets and Saints (27 total wins now) and the Colts have the Broncos, Falcons and Dolphins (24 total wins).
With only three total games left for the Colts to catch the Texans for SOV and being behind three wins, you can see why the Bengals win on Monday Night would have clinched the tiebreaker for the Texans. So to try and get to a tie in SOV, Indy needs all games to go their way (Bengals, Jets and Saints losses (a Saints loss is also a Falcons win) and Broncos and Dolphins wins. But that just gets them to a tie in SOV and moves to next tiebreaker step which is Strength of Schedule (SOS).
The only non-common games between Houston and Indy are Houston's games against Kansas City and Cincinnati (21 total wins) and Indy's games against Denver and Pittsburgh (20 total wins). AND ... since the Bengals loss and Broncos win are already needed to gain the SOV tie, that puts the SOS tiebreaker in a 21 total wins tie with the only outcomes left to help the Colts being a Chiefs loss and a Steelers win. If both happen and Kansas City loses and Pittsburgh wins, Indy would win the SOS tiebreaker and complete a monumental tiebreaker comeback. They could also win with one of those games tying and the other result ending in the Colts favor.
If none of those two results happen or if one game ties and they other result doesn't happen, Houston would clinch the SOS tiebreaker and win the division.
HOWEVER, if only one of a Kansas City loss or a Pittsburgh win occur, we have an SOS tie and the NEXT TIEBREAKER is best combined ranking among AFC teams in total points scored and total points allowed. Currently, Houston leads at 17 (11th in points scored and tied for 6th in points allowed) and Indianapolis is at 25 (12th in points scored and 13th in points allowed). Due to the nature of relatively unlimited points scored in games, clinching scenarios to lock this tiebreaker up are quite convoluted but let's just say the Colts have an uphill battle in this scenario, but it's not impossible.
If best combined conference ranking were to tie, it moves to best combined league ranking in points scored and points allowed and the Texans currently enjoy a fairly comfortable 35 to 51 edge there over the Colts.
BOTTOM LINE: Colts have an incredible challenge in front of them to win the AFC South...and the Texans just need one of the Colts many challenges to go their way to win the crown. It should be fun to watch (unless you're a Texans fan) if some of these games start going the Colts way on Sunday.
The No. 1 and No. 2 seeds have been determined, we just don't know the order yet. It will be the Panthers unless the Cardinals win and Panthers lose, in which case Arizona will take the top seed and claim home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.
The Packers and Vikings will clash on the final game of the season to determine the NFC North division champion and the No. 3 seed. In case of a tie game, the Packers will be the No. 3 seed.
The Redskins are locked in as the No. 4 seed and will host the No. 5 seed (either the Seahawks, Packers or Vikings) on Wild Card Weekend.
If the Packers lose, they will be the No. 5 seed and travel to Washington.
If the Vikings lose, they will either be the No. 5 seed if the Seahawks lose or tie or will be the No. 6 seed if the Seahawks win and make a return trip to Lambeau Field to face the Packers one week later.
If the Vikings win, they will definitely host the Seahawks on Wild Card Weekend. Even though that may be tougher matchup than others, I think Minnesota wants the division title and the home game.
The Seahawks will be the No. 6 seed and play at the Minnesota/Green Bay winner on Wild Card Weekend unless Seattle and Green Bay both win, in which case the Seahawks will head to Landover and face the Redskins as the No. 5 seed.
Source: CBS Sports
Posted 28 Dec 2015Nice work .
Id have to rank Bill first because the team was a mess and bringing Martin with him
Bowles brought in a lot of good players but the base of the team was there. Just needed another solid receiver, some help on the oline and secondary.and a qb with some accuracy anywhere on the field and a quick release which the Jets havent had since Parcells. No one knew what Fitz would bring to the team so it was just some great luck that Fitz could play well surrounded by the best team he has ever been on offensively.
Its hard to really know where to rank Ryan if the Jets had even an average qb Rex would have had almost definitely won 2 super bowls but Ive looked at Sanchez stats with the Jets and his win percentage against teams with winning seasons was horrendous with the Jets and no matter what anyone says he was terrible in 09-10. Had he won the two AFC Championship games which (Sanchez lost for the team) and won the Superbowls Rex would have been ranked first but he couldn't get over his love for Sanchez and that makes me want to rank him pretty low because of that alone.
Posted 26 Dec 2015Not sure why you see feel the need to get defensive. . It's a simple question (which by the way you didn't answer). You post on here like you have a major chip on your shoulder. Relax, bud. I actually agree smith sucks and the Oline is average, your the one with perception issues.
I didn't answer your question because of certain sick past comments and the way you utilized the word "hate" in your question. That is also why I said your perception is off.
I wasn't going to bring it up but since you seem to persist do you remember a certain idiotic comment you made like 3 years back about Id be happy if a certain athlete hanging from a noose tree just because I complained a lot about the way they played and wanted them off the field and team?
I dont respond well to distasteful comments because they are either made without thinking, stupidity, immaturity, or a sick mind.
Hating a person is someone you want harmed really bad ,like permanent crippling damage to someone, or tortured, or dead.
So wtf reason would I have to hate Geno, Sanchez,Devin Smith or the oline? They never did anything to me personally for me to hate them. And even if you used dislike instead what reason would I have to dislike them?
I wanted Thompkins back on the active roster and Devin Smith on the practice squad but I didn't want an injury be the reason Thompkins got back on the active roster over Smith.
I wanted the coaches to notice that Thompkins was much more of a asset on the active roster than Smith.There isn't supposed to be special treatment to a rookie that is doing pretty much nothing but screwing up. it doesn't happen all the time but sometimes high draft picks are cut from a team before the season starts because they are terrible in training camp and the preseason. Smith got special treatment over a more reliable athlete.
Only a sick minded person wants someone hurt for no reason if it doesn't affect them personally. And even if you go with the word "dislike" instead. What reason would I have to hate Smith, the oline, Brick, Sanchez or Geno? They've never done anything for me to hate or dislike them.
If I feel that an athlete isn't pulling their weight as a starter or even deserving of being on the field or even in the NFL at all I voice what I have to say because of abilities being shown or not shown. Nothing more. Plenty of first picks in the draft that were stars in college have been complete busts in the NFL.
I dont believe you even know the true feeling of hate. Only someone that enjoys hurting or killing others or those victimized in someway peronally or someone very close to someone that has been victimized.
If you really understood the true and haunting feeling of hating someone to the point of it affecting your thoughts for your entire life and thinking seriously hateful thoughts you wouldn't make such distasteful like you do.
I'm done with discussing this with you. if you want to talk real football then its all good. Surely you have more things to talk about sports than meaningless questions?
Posted 25 Dec 2015Who do you hate more? The Jets o-line or Devin Smith?
Lol. You have major issue with perception.
Not even going to bother acknowledging a statement like that. You tend to make statements like that quite a bit. Wont list them and throw you under the buss but you must not be seeing whats happening on the field or have such a blind love for every Jets player on the roster and such a huge fan that all you see is the good and not the bad players or plays.
"hate?" Im a stat and numbers guy and know what I see on the field.
Its a fact that Smith has been what his NFL scouting reports have stated and its a fact that Thompkins catches almost every ball thrown his wall because he runs really good routes. Its a fact that Thompkins has caught far more passes than Smith in maybe a 10 of the plays on the field and 1/4th of the games on the field. If you cant see that you are a Jets fan with blinders on and cant distinguish bad players on the team from the good players. And if you used common sense instead of making dumb statements you would realize its the coaches who make the active rosters. If anyone is to blame for the bust wr Smith being on the field instead of the reliable Thompkins its been the coaches.
Hate to break it to you but all rosters have players on the team that aren't good.
As far as the oline......its common knowledge oline players regress over time. They suffer more knee injuries by position than any other.They get hit the most too. Running backs would be next. Brick has been around a long time. Few offensive lineman are on top of their game and have a long career. And olinemen are generally the least athletic players on the team. No football player ever as a kid wants to be an offensive lineman. Any of them would choose to be on the dline rushing the passer and tackling if they had a choice. Its hard to find good olinemen. Almost no olinemen ever get any recognition or glory. Good dlinemen get a lot.The best friend an olinemen can have is a qb that releases the ball in 3 seconds or less on almost every play.
Posted 22 Dec 2015That would be a terrible Idea. Rich Cimini needs to get off whatever he is smoking. Murray`s numbers in 2013 and 2014 in Dallas was strictly they product of a tremendous oline(which we do not have) and nothing more. I watch most of the games every week on Ticket and he was very unimpressive in 2011 and 2012 in most games not to mention 2 tds and 4 tds. Basically much of his career in Dallas he would look good one week and look terrible the next.
Also who watched the Sunday night game saw him sitting on the sideline most of the game in favor of Mathews who hasn't been known as a great rb himself.
Ivory is better than Murray. The Jets dont have a good oline. The only reason Fitz dows so well is because he is a quick release qb. But he has still been plastered a lot and Im amazed he isnt on IR because of it.
Murray`s 2015 game log speaks for itself some of the yards in the games and yards per carry are terrible. If he was a true 1st string rb they would look better.
Murray 2015 Game log
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