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Posted 8 Oct 2015Yeah Clay is legit.
As far as who has the better qb you have a good point and after reading up on Taylor Id say its to hard to tell at this point.
Fitz is a journeyman sometimes looking amazing, sometimes average, and sometimes terrible but to his credit he hasn't been on the best teams with the best weapons. So what kind of qb Fitz really is at this point is debatable and still in question.
After doing some research Taylor backed up Flacco with really no chance of starting. Other than a couple of plays he only played in one game in his career before this year. Week 17 of 2012. Ravens had division locked up. Taylor didn't start but he played the majority of the game and played ok for his first real NFL game action. In 2015 he comes to the Bills as the 3rd string qb and completely beats out the top 2 qbs ahead of him for the starting job. He has looked really good in some of the games Ive seen him play in and also to note Mccoy keeps getting injured as well as Watkins so he is playing without some of his major weapons.
But yeah I got your point. Its to early to judge him based on 4 games.
As far as the AFC Championships I fully blame Sanchez. But that's in the past so lets leave that be. Over with no sense in dwelling on something 5 and 6 years ago.
With Rex. A lot of us like him and think he is cool. Whether he is a good head coach or a bad head coach I honestly haven't decided yet for sure but I do believe he is a much better head coach than most of us think.Lets be honest...in 09-10 he had a young qb that played terrible and had a running game and defense that bailed the qb out.
2011 on Tanny screwed up the team and we had no kind of offense an aging dline and all we could really do is run the ball. Then after Tanny was fired the team has been in rebuilding mode until this year so who Rex really is as a coach is debatable and everyone feels different on whether he should be a head coach or not. I'm actually glad he got another shot at head coaching with a solid team. I just wish it wasn't in our division. I haven't read up on why he is with the Bills whether that was his only head coaching job offer or maybe he just wanted to keep living in NY. Who knows. But he will have his shot to prove himself again. If you look at it another way. Look how many super star head coaches that are in the league now that sucked in their first and some even in second head coaching chance. Belichick and Carrol are a few.
As far as Rex`s brother I dont even know how he still is a defensive coach. He obviously doesn't have the defensive knowledge his brother had. Either that or he just doesn't have enough good defensive talent.
With Fitz this is the most solid team he has been on and if he wasn't in the top 4 in the league in qb hits which doesn't include pressured throws with better protection he probably would be playing a lot better with better protection. I'm still amazed that he only has 2 sacks in 50 hits. that alone is amazing.
And I do blame Smith for some of Fitz`s ints. The reports were spot on so far. Body catcher and gets manhandled by physical corners. 2 of Fitz`s picks were to Smith in the Eagles game.Some people blame Fit I blame Smith. The next game an almost identical throw to Marshall and pass coverage and Marshall took the ball Smith let the corner take the ball from him. The int over the middle I cant be positive but as far away as Smith was from the ball I believe Smith ran the route wrong but its just a theory I believe because when Fitz throws to Kerley, Decker, or Marshall even if the ball is not thrown perfectly the ball is usually in the area of the wr but the Smith pass was like 3 yards off target and Fitz usually isn't that far off with his throws normally.
I'm not giving up on Smith as a rookie yet but he needs to really hit the weight room and needs to be given a trainer to push the heck out of him into developing a strong core body strength hand or ball catcher who cares as long as he catches the balls. And He really needs a lot of work at better route running. His size means nothing if he lets defenders push him off of his routes easily.
Id rather have Kerley as the 3rd wr at least for now. He may be small but he is fast with great hands and proven to run great routes. Kerley is a legitimate 3rd wr on pretty much any team unless our other two big wr`s show vast improvement.
I dont know how everyone feels about Smith but I do know all of us like Kerley. He is very reliable for a small wr. Definitely not a 1st or 2nd wr but solid at 3rd. Smith should be dropped in the depth chart for now and have coaches and trainers on him all day working on precise route running and having him vigorously train cardio and strength training. I cant see Smith being good this year but if he works all season and off season with coaches and strength and conditioning trainers Smith could be a huge asset next year. His biggest problem is strength so he needs to get stronger so he wont get pushed around by corners anymore Especially with his size he shouldn't be pushed off his routes so easily.
Posted 8 Oct 2015Dude I was going torag the hell out of you for using such a piss poor site. Either the person using the math has a sh*tty formula and doesn't know how to create a true algorithm or its some geek that knows math but knows zero about football.
Compare your site to NFL.come and look at the teams with the lowest qb hits. Those are the teams that are protecting their qb the best. A sack is still considered a qb hit and that site you are referencing doesn't even factor in qb hits. QB pressures are one thing but hits have to be factored in for qb protection
The site you are using for the oline has completely different ranking list for oline qb protection because it doesn't factor in hits on the qb at all.
qb hits in 4 games
Whats amazing is that Fitz has been hit that many times and only had 2 sacks. That many hits greatly increase chance of serious injury.
I dont know about you but Id much rather a qb take only 15 hits and 6 of them being sacks than the qb taking 50 hits with only 2 of them sacks. Yes with sacks the qb is taken to the ground with the ball but on many hits the qb is still crushed to the ground. Brady and Rodgers get great protection.
Posted 5 Oct 2015We are Also on pace for 52 Takeaways on Defense!!
Not happening. If it does I'd be amazed. Considering 10 of the turnovers were the first two weeks. 1 turnover last week and 2 this week against
Nice to hope but logically I don't see it if we manage 30 I will be surprised. The defense causing 5 turnovers like they did each of the first two weeks isn't likely to happen very often. Especially when facing teams that are actually good.
Still though it is nice to be first in Turnovers caused.
As long as Decker and Marshall are both playing and there aren't many throws to Devin Smith Fitz won't have a ton of ints. Your second stat of what you project of Fitz is more likely. That said we haven't faced any good defenses yet so he may screw up and throw a lot of picks if they start hitting him even more. The way our offensive line is giving up qb hits we will probably end up #1 in the league in qb hits allowed by the end of the year after facing the good defenses
Posted 5 Oct 2015we've played 3 mobile QBs (manziel/mcknown, luck, and tannehill) we're getting hits and pressure just not sacks and thos pressures are resulting in a lot of the turnovers.
Did you even understand what I posted. The teams we hav faced have not been elite teams. The Jets are by far the highest blitzing team in the league so averaging less than 2 sacks a game against 4 bad teams isn't good. What are going to do against good teams and teams with good offensive lines? It doesn't bode well if you look at it logically.
So yes the low sack rate is a concern.
And I clearly mentioned the team defense hits but couldn't find an updated team defense stat for pressures and hits. Every site I came across that listed them by team were for previous seasons or bye a single defensive player. If you can find a site that lists an updated team defensive qb hit and pressure stat list please list it.
Next you disregarded the fact that Fitz has been hit 50 times 3rd in the NFL for qb hits allowed. And that's against bad teams. So that is a major concern. If you don't think so then you need to think again. Those 50 hits in 4 games were against 4 bad teams with bad defenses. That is is a clear statement we have major online issues. Especially as much as this team runs the ball to have 50 qb hits allowed makes it even worse. We are a running team not a passing team so 50 qb hits allowed against bad teams looms large. Especially when we face good teams and good or great defenses.
There are already 4 top 10 qbs that have been injured and missed games or on IR and many more that are playing hurt. Fitz may not be great and only average but he plays well enough not to be the main cause of losing games. If Fitz keeps getting hit it's inevitable that he will get hurt. I don't know about you but I don't trust Geno enough to roll with him.
Heck I was actually shocked when I saw that stat about allowing 3rd most qb hits in the league. I didn't think our online was allowing that many hits. Fitz is averaging but if he gets hit on 75% of the passing plays it makes sense why a lot of his throws are off. No qb wants to be laying on the ground after a linebacker or massive doing player hit on nearly every pass.
Posted 28 Sep 2015I seen the game, i know which play you are talking about (3rd quarter one). I still went and watched the video (did you) because it only shows 1 angle. smith has him beat and outside position, CB has inside position, fits throws it short and inside right into the DBs arms, if fitz puts it deeper and outside it's an easy TD. Found teh clip with the 3 angles, fitz threw it right into the DBs hands, smith did what he could reaching over and trying to grab it with 1 hand, but lats face it, not many WRs could pull that off. maybe julio and calvin and that's it. How can you blame smith for that?
Well I'm glad you found the three angle view. It does show a lot more than just watching the one view in the highlights.
Anyone one else that wants to see the 3 angle view that shows a lot more of that int should look for a separate video that`s labeled "Eric Rowe first interception". I actually recommend that everyone interested in why me and 115 are disagreeing on the in and also agreeing to a point watch the 3 angle video it does show where both the wr and qb both screwed up.Its really worth looking at.
115 all I'm trying to say really is from playing myself for 15 years until my back got messed up and then the failed back surgery damaged my spinal cord and watching enough NFL since 1983 and constantly hearing the coaches nad receivers receivers in post game interviews,ESPN retired player analysts, NFL Network analysts Hard Knocks, etc. always stating about getting the inside position and the great corners stating the same thing. Unless corner is beat to the point where they cant catch up and inside or outside doesn't matter for the wr and corner being on the inside is the most important thing in most cases in pass plays. The exceptions are the all time great beast receivers that can take a ball in double and triple coverage like Jones and Marshall and a few other massive receivers with stellar hands.
I blame them both equally. Good route running is just as important as accurate throws. So I say Smith and Fitz both screwed up on that particular int1 after seeing so many views.
I actually think we are on the same page but just took a while to get there.
Whether it be a circle route, quick slant, 5-10 and in, deep slant(goal or post slant),Out and in, or a down the field throw if the corner has inside position the receiver is usually in trouble.
As stated before the only exceptions are a back shoulder pass, or a trick pass where the ball is deliberately under-thrown and the receiver does a sudden stop and cuts back to fake out the corner while the corner runs ahead or a planned back-shoulder pass by and accurate qb. Other than that unless the corner is clearly beaten with no chance to catch up like with the picture you posted of the Julio Jones route. The corner in that play was 2-3 yards behind Jones and had no chance unless the ball would've been severely under thrown.
As far as Marshall like you I dont blame him as much as some of the others. He was doing everything he could to try to put the team on his back after a slow start and being down big Marshall was literally beasting it. The reason I gave him a dud because that failed lateral attempt was in the 2nd quarter. If it would have been late in the 4th I would not have blamed him for trying that. When questioned in the interview Marshall this is what Marshall said
"Oh, my gosh, I was waiting for that [question]," Marshall said with a heavy sigh when asked about the lateral. "Wrong time to gamble. I was pressing, trying to make a play. But you can’t do that.
"That was probably the worst play in NFL history."
And he knew it. You dont try that in the 2nd quarter
As far as the Brandon Marshall tip Thurman interception after finding a better video of the pass that showed it like 4 times in different speeds and watching it on full screen on my 65 inch tv I found some really good views of pass and attempted catch. The ball being thrown high wasn't the problem at all. The height of the pass was well within Marshall`s length and easy for him to catch height wise.
So Ive changed my mine on this one and blame Fitz for this after seeing dozens of videos of this pass from different angles and closeups.The game replay angles of the pass looked completely different. Its nice to too get more angles of these passes so we can break them down better after the game.
Marshall still could have caught the ball or kept it from being intercepted but these angles of videos and closeups Marshall actually misjudged the ball closed his hands early. The ball didn't go through his hands at all like it looked on the other video angles.The ball hit Marshall's finger tips from misjudging the ball. The ball hitting him in the top of his fingers is what caused it to be intercepted.
Had Marshall not misjudged the ball and it hit him in the hands the ball either would've been caught or went out of bounds. The reason the pass is Fitz`s fought is because of the angle of the ball. He threw the pass to Marshall at a weird angle across the field like a 30-45 degree angle and away from Marshall`s body. Not an easy ball for a receiver to catch. Even if the ball would've been at chest height instead of slightly high the angle of the pass across the field it made the ball really hard to time the catch since the ball still would've been away from Marshall`s body. Basically Marshall would've still had to reach out for an angled across the ball pass even if it were at chest height.
So give Marshall a pass on this one. Fitz threw a ball he shouldn't have at across the field with to many defenders around Marshall.
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